Then we a holy war question which is, do the Orthodox or the Catholic powers wage war on this Arian Christian state?
Then we have the big Turkish/Ottoman question, which is can they hold back the Turks?
Finally the Hapsburg question, do they get sucked into family's holdings?
How about Goths surviving in Scandinavia ?It's in the title.
Multiple PODs but not quite sure which is the strongest case....
Remain in Poland?
Hold out against the Huns in Crimea?
Somewhere in the Balkans?
And then we get to Italy and Hispania....
Will the Vikings leave them alone? Maybe not.How about Goths surviving in Scandinavia ?
How about Goths surviving in Scandinavia ?
It depends how distinct Goths are from other Scandinavians. Vikings are only the raiders from Scandinavia, not the common people.Will the Vikings leave them alone? Maybe not.
They would be the Vikings, since they'd make up a significant part of the population there.Will the Vikings leave them alone? Maybe not.
Why would it necessarily get assimilated? There are theories that East Germanic and North Germanic have some common features, and at worst you might have an East Germanic language strongly influenced by North Germanic much as English has a strong North Germanic influence (I would not call this a creole, and Bible Gothic was a very specific form of Gothic--and not representative of Vandalic which was rather different).Then it get assimilated into Old Gutnish and then later Swedish, though if a creolized language develops which combines features of Old Gutnish and (Biblical) Gothic, then maybe. Then you'd get a similar situation to some of the border languages like Dalecarlian/Elfdalian or Jamtlandic/Trøndersk, for example, or even something like the early development of English on a much smaller scale.
It's really not, given the Goths of the Pontic Steppes most likely formed in Poland and not in Scandinavia.However the Goths not crossing the Baltic sea is quite a major POD.
Yet they're legends suggest otherwise.It's really not, given the Goths of the Pontic Steppes most likely formed in Poland and not in Scandinavia.
Butterflies might result in no Ottomans, no Habsburgs, no Avar conquest of the Pannonian Basin, etc.So there's a Gothic Kingdom, subject to the Eastern Emperor.
In come the Avars and Croats, they push over the river but get held back in the hills and mountains.
The Goths push back and retake land upto the river. This might leave them with something a but larger than the Kingdom of Croatia.
So we have a Venice question first which is does Venice still take the coast?
I'm assuming they keep the Hungarians out as they did with the Avars.
Then we a holy war question which is, do the Orthodox or the Catholic powers wage war on this Arian Christian state?
Then we have the big Turkish/Ottoman question, which is can they hold back the Turks?
Finally the Hapsburg question, do they get sucked into family's holdings?
Plus we have an Italian states question, can they stay out of or use their influence in Italy?
Well there is also the Geatish survival option.....even the possibility of the Geats beating the Svear to dominate and even give their name to the unified kingdom.
However the Goths not crossing the Baltic sea is quite a major POD.
It's really not, given the Goths of the Pontic Steppes most likely formed in Poland and not in Scandinavia.
So Franks are Anatolians? That's what legends say!Yet they're legends suggest otherwise.
I grant you this might really be the divide between a people and a small group that take leadership.
It might be more to productive to look into how cultural history might lead to the survival of the Gothic language.Political history is the narrative and survey ofpolitical events, ideas, movements, organs of government, voters, parties and leaders. It is interrelated to other fields of history, especially diplomatic history, as well as constitutional historyand public history.
Cultural history studies and interprets the record of human societies by denoting the various distinctive ways of living built up by a group of people under consideration. Cultural history involves the aggregate of past cultural activity, such as ceremony, class in practices, and the interaction with locales.
How about a Gothic Islamic polity in Iberia ? A Gothic Emirate which ist tolerantes by Moorish conquerers would be interesting.It's in the title.
Multiple PODs but not quite sure which is the strongest case....
Remain in Poland?
Hold out against the Huns in Crimea?
Somewhere in the Balkans?
And then we get to Italy and Hispania....
It wouldn't be Gothic speakingHow about a Gothic Islamic polity in Iberia ?