Q-Bam Historical Map Thread

[OxSpace]

~1890 Khedivate of Egypt with some mudiriyah subdivisions drawn out.

Some things to note:

• Couldn't find any information regarding pre-Anglo-Egyptian Sudan provinces. The most I found was this Wikipedia article claiming Ali made 6 provinces?? All vague. Even then, this is the only map I found and I'm highly dubious about it.
• Didn't draw out the Mahdist State / War
• Didn't map the fact that it was a British protectorate
• The Libyan border is disputed
• The non-outlined borders simply represent the vagueness/rapidly changing nature of the border.

Any help would be great.

 

[Xasper H.]

Completely useless, but I needed something to do: cadastral divisions of Western Australia from 1887-1917
These divisions don't have much purpose OTL anyways so I have no idea if they'll ever be put to use

 

[Xasper H.]

Syria and Libya as of August this year. Any assistance would be useful, as my knowledge of the situation is limited

 

[Comte de Dordogne]

I wanted to ask: Is there a patch from the Ottoman Empire in the 17th century made in Q-BAm format?

Edit: I found the 1648 world map in the thread on page 51. If it's of interest to some who didn't see it as I did.

 

[James the AH Fan]

Couldn't find any information regarding pre-Anglo-Egyptian Sudan provinces. The most I found was this Wikipedia article claiming Ali made 6 provinces?? All vague. Even then, this is the only map I found and I'm highly dubious about it.

The map you linked was created in 1892, and the Arabic Wikipedia article is accurate to what you said. So I would attempt to geo-reference them onto the Q-BAM map.

 

[OxSpace]

The map you linked was created in 1892, and the Arabic Wikipedia article is accurate to what you said. So I would attempt to geo-reference them onto the Q-BAM map.

You sure? The listed directorates are: Dongola, Berber, Khartoum, Sennar, Kordofan, Vazogli, and later Taka.
The DR map listed has: Dongola, Berber, Souakin, Massoua, Kassala, Khartoum (listed with Sennar?), Kordofan, Bahr-El-Abiad, Darfour, Bahr-El-Ghazal, and Bays Somali
As you can see with the ones I bolded out, there is a lot of discrepancies between these two sources. And the arabic wikipedia article never references any major redraw of the directorates other than Ismail Pasha II expanded down the Nile.

 

[James the AH Fan]

You sure?

The six directorates were created <1834, so within that 60-year period more were added.

 

[athgtq16129]

Where is that ultra-detailed map of the pre-WW1 world (it was either 1900 or 1914) which included flags, and ongoing wars? I forgot who made it.

 

[Sharklord1]

Where is that ultra-detailed map of the pre-WW1 world (it was either 1900 or 1914) which included flags, and ongoing wars? I forgot who made it.

File:Flag-map of the world (1914).png - Wikimedia Commons

commons.wikimedia.org

do you mean this?

 

[El_Presidente]

Where is that ultra-detailed map of the pre-WW1 world (it was either 1900 or 1914) which included flags, and ongoing wars? I forgot who made it.

I think you're refering to this.

 

[athgtq16129]

I think you're refering to this.

Yeah this one, thanks.

 

[Hypersauce]

South Africa in 1842

 

[Hypersauce]

South africa in 1847

 

[CHKeeley]

Started work on an updated 1918 map

 

[Kaiser Wilhelm the Tenth]

Question: Are we allowed to use the maps posted in this thread for our own purposes?
@CalBear?

 

[CHKeeley]

Question: Are we allowed to use the maps posted in this thread for our own purposes?
@CalBear?

Its a public project for historical QBAMs, so yeah you don't need permission to use these for your maps IIRC

 

[CHKeeley]

Progress

 

[Drex]

Progress

Spain's internals are off, the current model of autonomies dates to 1983. Back in 1918 Spain's first level of subdivision was the provinces, followed by the municipalities (which would be too small to fit in, what is seen in the map are comarcas [shires], which weren't created until much later). Only the Basque Country, Navarre and Catalonia (the Commonwealth there lasted from 1914 to 1925) had some degree of autonomy or power above the province level.

 

[CHKeeley]

Spain's internals are off, the current model of autonomies dates to 1983. Back in 1918 Spain's first level of subdivision was the provinces, followed by the municipalities (which would be too small to fit in, what is seen in the map are comarcas [shires], which weren't created until much later). Only the Basque Country, Navarre and Catalonia (the Commonwealth there lasted from 1914 to 1925) had some degree of autonomy or power above the province level.

Thank you - Portugal and Spain I had simply ripped off of a more modern QBAM in the interest of filling space but I had planned to go back and re-examine the subdivisions for accuracy! France and Belarus in particular are two others I planned on revising, but Germany (second level subdivisions) and the territories of the Ober-Ost (minus Ukraine) I did myself.

 

[Crazy Boris]

Thank you - Portugal and Spain I had simply ripped off of a more modern QBAM in the interest of filling space but I had planned to go back and re-examine the subdivisions for accuracy! France and Belarus in particular are two others I planned on revising, but Germany (second level subdivisions) and the territories of the Ober-Ost (minus Ukraine) I did myself.

The UK needs a similar edit, consituent countries didn’t become the first level divisions until 1999, before then it was the counties.