Q-Bam Historical Map Thread

https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/nvvfzv
Posted by "Cryptic_3vil", thought this could be helpful.

He also writes down some names to make the map easier to read...

  • Big sky blue one in the south: Al Marah
  • Orange one below it: Alkatheery
  • Red one in the south: Qahtan
  • Yellow one below it: Yam Hamdan
  • Brown one in the middle: 'atibah
  • Long red one in the north: Harb
  • Blue one in the north: Shamr
  • Pink one east of the blue one: Thafir
  • Olive one at the very top: 'anzah
 
The way memory plays tricks on you is astonishing. I was sure that amidst the Roman maps there was one of Majorian's Empire.
No chance of seeing that, eh?
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Western Roman Empire in 461 before his assassination, didn't add the administrative diocese/provinces because I'm not sure when exactly most of them ceased to exist, and I'm not even sure the divisions were even relevant anymore
 
https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/nvvfzv
Posted by "Cryptic_3vil", thought this could be helpful.

He also writes down some names to make the map easier to read...

  • Big sky blue one in the south: Al Marah
  • Orange one below it: Alkatheery
  • Red one in the south: Qahtan
  • Yellow one below it: Yam Hamdan
  • Brown one in the middle: 'atibah
  • Long red one in the north: Harb
  • Blue one in the north: Shamr
  • Pink one east of the blue one: Thafir
  • Olive one at the very top: 'anzah
On that topic, Kings and Generals has a video talking about pre-islamic arabia that has several very detailed maps from 1 ad to 600 ad, with names and everything.
 
I have, partially as a result of data from @wietze and @James the AH Fan, found data on Jutland.
Interestingly, seems that until about 1250 the Limsfjorden was open at the western end. Its where Cnut gathered his fleet before attacking England. There was also a larger entrance to the north which closed due to Aeolian action {windswept sand].
Yesss, I've been wanting a North Sea one for a while, needs Jutland though


This is the resulting patch;
UK, Holland & Jutland.png
or just Jutland
Jutland- 1000bc to 2020ad.png



The full maps have been adjusted Bob Hope's [historically correct coasts and rivers] blank maps
Denmark now looks like this;
UK, Holland & Jutland- old.png
 
What first got me interested in Historical Coasts was the Rann of Kutch, it was one of the first things I adjusted on my own maps before re-adopting the main map.

Imagine my chagrin when examining my dated maps to find I had completely forgotten to look at that area.

The Rann only started to silt up after an earthquake in 1819 cut off most of it's water and it got refills from the Arabian Gulf on an irregular basis.


RANN.b.png


I will update the main maps later
EDIT; Updated
 
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I have, partially as a result of data from @wietze and @James the AH Fan, found data on Jutland.
Interestingly, seems that until about 1250 the Limsfjorden was open at the western end. Its where Cnut gathered his fleet before attacking England. There was also a larger entrance to the north which closed due to Aeolian action {windswept sand].



This is the resulting patch;
View attachment 709229 or just Jutland View attachment 709230


The full maps have been adjusted Bob Hope's [historically correct coasts and rivers] blank maps
Denmark now looks like this;
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I don't know if you have seen these yet but I made a Patch sometime ago for Northern France and Borneo that you might be interested in.

Unrelated and not really the best but

Aral Stuff.png


South Borneo Patch for 10,000 BC to 1300 AD based off this video by Lazardi Wong Jogja

And

Aral Stuff.png


Northern France in the English Channel, 100 BC to 1040 AD based off this video by Ollie Bye
There should be edits on Sumatra, Bali and Sulewesi but only Sulewesi do I really trust myself to be able to do accurately.
 
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I don't know if you have seen these yet but I made a Patch sometime ago for Northern France and Borneo that you might be interested in.


There should be edits on Sumatra, Bali and Sulewesi but only Sulewesi do I really trust myself to be able to do accurately.
Hi Pecu,
Thanks for these, I try not to use these sorts of Videos, much as I admire them, unless I can get corroborating evidence from elsewhere, otherwise its just relying on someone to have got the right data/ drawn it correctly/ not made a mistake.
However, they are useful in bringing me to areas I didn't know about so thank you for that. I was already looking for data on Indonesia, I'll start looking for northern France.
I assume from your message that you are from Sulawesi, what in particular should I look for there.
 
Hi Pecu,
Thanks for these, I try not to use these sorts of Videos, much as I admire them, unless I can get corroborating evidence from elsewhere, otherwise its just relying on someone to have got the right data/ drawn it correctly/ not made a mistake.
However, they are useful in bringing me to areas I didn't know about so thank you for that. I was already looking for data on Indonesia, I'll start looking for northern France.
I assume from your message that you are from Sulawesi, what in particular should I look for there.
Oh, I'm not from Sulawesi but I did see something some year ago on Sulawesi's coastline haven changed in historical times.

Okay, I think I will b able to find the source that France Map is based on, if I do I'll link it here.
 
Oh, I'm not from Sulawesi but I did see something some year ago on Sulawesi's coastline haven changed in historical times.

Okay, I think I will b able to find the source that France Map is based on, if I do I'll link it here.
The data is contradictory. Whilst it is obvious there are some changes in the area the sources differ.
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I think Ollie has taken his coastline from this prediction of global warming
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The data is contradictory. Whilst it is obvious there are some changes in the area the sources differ.
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I think Ollie has taken his coastline from this prediction of global warming
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Okay, thanks for educating me on the dangers of relying heavily in video mappers.

However, I found this for the Niger-Delta of which data on the paper was being gathered starting from the 1980s.

 
Never ever, ever, use youtube mappers as sources. These videos are primarily for entertainment, not as an actual resource. There's a reason they never put their sources in the video or the description. These videos should only be used to do further research on nations in the area, not as a borderpool.

As for the Walloonian coast
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Okay, thanks for educating me on the dangers of relying heavily in video mappers.

However, I found this for the Niger-Delta of which data on the paper was being gathered starting from the 1980s.

Yes, I've seen various of these, they all say the coast advances in some areas and recedes in others but none of them give any details.

Never ever, ever, use youtube mappers as sources. These videos are primarily for entertainment, not as an actual resource. There's a reason they never put their sources in the video or the description. These videos should only be used to do further research on nations in the area, not as a borderpool.

As for the Walloonian coast
Wow, only the last comes up in image search, what is the source?
 
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