You don't ask for much, do you? 
(seriously, I'd love to see that too, if anyone has one....)
(seriously, I'd love to see that too, if anyone has one....)
Q-Bam Historical Map Thread
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Workin on a QBAM of 2/12/1912, which was the abdication of Emperor PuyiYou don't ask for much, do you?
(seriously, I'd love to see that too, if anyone has one....)
I’ve noticed on most maps from 1867-1918, Hungary (Lands of the Crown of St. Stephen) is shown as the same color as Austria.
However, wasn’t Hungary an autonomous unit of Austria-Hungary, as they had their own Diet, Emperor-King, Controlled Internal Security, and were largely not influenced by the Austrian Crown.
Really the only thing I can find when it comes to determining a state’s sovereignty that Hungary didn’t posses was Foreign Relations and it’s own Armed Forces.
(Notice I am using a definition laid out here: https://omniatlas.com/blogs/about/influence-and-control/)
By that logic, Hungary isn’t independent, and it isn’t just influenced, as it checks off two boxes, so it’s some sort of autonomy here.
I may be wrong, but if I’m right how come it is not depicted with the autonomous shade of Austria-Hungary?
However, wasn’t Hungary an autonomous unit of Austria-Hungary, as they had their own Diet, Emperor-King, Controlled Internal Security, and were largely not influenced by the Austrian Crown.
Really the only thing I can find when it comes to determining a state’s sovereignty that Hungary didn’t posses was Foreign Relations and it’s own Armed Forces.
(Notice I am using a definition laid out here: https://omniatlas.com/blogs/about/influence-and-control/)
By that logic, Hungary isn’t independent, and it isn’t just influenced, as it checks off two boxes, so it’s some sort of autonomy here.
I may be wrong, but if I’m right how come it is not depicted with the autonomous shade of Austria-Hungary?
Your answer is the first sentence of the second paragraph of Wikipedia.
"At its core was the dual monarchy which was a real union between the Austrian Empire and the Kingdom of Hungary"
It's a union, Hungary is an equal member, not autonomously subservient to Austria.
So what you’re saying is, I looked far too in depth for this instead of taking it at face value.
On the topic though, if they’re a real union and are colored the same; how should the Bosnian Condominium be treated?
The Bosnian condominium was jointly administered by both Austria and Hungary, and as previously mentioned, were in an equal union with one another. So whatever border you choose to have between Austria and Hungary should probably be the same as Bosnia
Alright! It's time!
Time for the Dumb Question Du Jour!
What map did you base the Barcid expansion of the Iberian peninsula on? I've seen several which show that they didn't cross the west side of the Guadiana. That's one thing that always bothers me with the maps online - they're always inconsistent. I assume you also used textual evidence to make your map (I know that Hasdrubal Gisco was supposedly stationed near Lisbon). For clarity, I'm referring to maps like these: https://cdn.britannica.com/36/3036-050-9664D488/Carthaginian-empire.jpg and https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9b/Carthaginianempire.PNG
I did not know that the Celts of Noricum had such a well established kingdom at this point of time.
Concerning Qatar, what the heck is happening? I've been trying to look it up, but I get nothing besides "We found this Hellenistic stuff, now let's talk 'bout the Sassanids"
Well, another one of my dream maps has been made. Now all I have to do is wait for one which shows the Empire of Mithridates VI, the Armenian Empire of Tigranes the great, Knut's north sea Empire, the Thuringii empire (if it actually existed because Wikipedia said so
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I got the Barcid expansion from a guy named Cyowari on deviantart, who he himself derives some of his own maps from another guy named Ian Mladjov https://sites.google.com/a/umich.edu/imladjov/maps. I use both for ancient/early medieval sources. The good thing about these 2 is that they often put cities/towns/settlements on their maps, so I can look them up and see some of their political history. Ex. Salamanca in Spain is not shown as part of either of those other 2 maps, but Hannibal took it in 220 B.C., and because Cyowari showed it, I can fact check it and learn it.
As for Noricum, it was supposedly organized around 400 B.C., it is a tribal government and is no more organized than the later Germanic tribes Rome will fight.
In Qatar is Gerrha, a civilization that dominated the Arabian side of the Persian gulf, it lasted from 650 B.C. to 300 A.D.
Bit of a niche request, but does anyone have a map of Bosnia under Tvrtko I?
Relatedly, I notice we basically have nothing covering the 14th century - we've got 1300, and then we just skip forward nearly 150 years to 1444. Seems like sort of a conspicuous hole in the coverage, if you ask me.
Relatedly, I notice we basically have nothing covering the 14th century - we've got 1300, and then we just skip forward nearly 150 years to 1444. Seems like sort of a conspicuous hole in the coverage, if you ask me.
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August 27, 1832, End of the Black Hawk War (which apparently has nothing to do with the movie 'Black Hawk Down')
Edit: fixed some Ottoman stuff
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Once again, the subdivisions in the UK are wrong. By over a century.
August 27, 1832, End of the Black Hawk War (which apparently has nothing to do with the movie 'Black Hawk Down')
Edit: fixed some Ottoman stuff
uk counties in general are a mess at this scale. i wouldnt worry too much about it tbh. there is a flintshire/maelor patch i made a while back tho. 👀
1836 Montenegro
Source
Montenegrin tribes formed the administrative divisions of the prince bishopric, I was unable to fit all of the southernmost ones, they are too dense.
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Montenegrin tribes formed the administrative divisions of the prince bishopric, I was unable to fit all of the southernmost ones, they are too dense.
Wales in 1836
Yes, until 1974, it was not settled if Monmouthshire was part of England or Wales
Yes, until 1974, it was not settled if Monmouthshire was part of England or Wales
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This is a great patch... but I think you may be in the wrong thread, this looks a little big to be QBAM
are qbam variants not allowed here? I don't think there are any other good historical map threads, and I didn't want to use regular qbam because it's too small
It's an 8K-BAM, which has its own thread with plenty of historical patches, please repost it there.
so in the future for my 1836 map should I post in both threads or just there?