Q-Bam Historical Map Thread

Discussion in 'Alternate History Maps and Graphics' started by JG Online, Dec 9, 2016.

  1. Christory Well-Known Member

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    Here's a slightly updated 2019 map, outlining the following:

    - Most or all puppet states
    - Most or all client states
    - Most or all satellite states
    - All associated states
    - The European Union

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  2. endy776 Well-Known Member

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  3. Crazy Boris Cool Dood

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    I started a version with subdivisions last night. So far I have Portugal, Spain, France, the Empire, and Poland done.
     
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  4. Crazy Boris Cool Dood

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    New version of 1492 with internals for:
    -Iroquois
    -Aztecs
    -Muisca
    -Inca
    -Scotland
    -Norway
    -Sweden
    -Denmark
    -Portugal
    -Spain (keeping it here since I count 1469 as the unification year)
    -France
    -HRE
    -Poland
    -Livonia
    -Ottomans
    -Korea
    -China
     
  5. Coluber Dirty Degredado

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    First off, I asked this question before on the regular QBam map thread, and I was suggested to ask over here. For some time, I've been looking for a QBam map with the Arno and Rubicon rivers, which I'm sure I've seen before. I was wondering if there's such a map here or anywhere else. I can't comb through this thread to search for it at this moment.
     
  6. RMcD94 Well-Known Member

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    Where is this map?
     
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  8. Admiral A. Kolchak Supreme Leader

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    Moscow should not own Kolguyev Island either.
     
  9. Apathe Active Member

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    May I ask, where did you find the province/eyalet info for the Ottoman empire? I looked around a bit for that stuff in that timeframe, but could only find info for eyalets in the 1500s onwards. Also, what's going on with Mexico and Cuba? I haven't seen that characterization of those lands on a 1400s map before.
     
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  10. Crazy Boris Cool Dood

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    With the Ottomans, I literally just went around for info on every eyalet and found the ones that were around in 1492 :p

    As for Cuba, I got the info for that from a map on AztlanHistorian’s deviantart, and the Mexico data was from a couple maps of Mesoamerica c.1500 (with Metzitlan independent from the Aztecs though, as that hadn’t happened yet.), I think one you can find on Wiki, and I can’t remember where I found the other one, but I think it was made by some university in Mexico?
     
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  11. Crazy Boris Cool Dood

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    323 BC: Alexander the Great becomes Alexander the Dead
     
  12. Sharklord1 Well-Known Member

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    Diadochi time
     
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  13. Sharklord1 Well-Known Member

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    480 AD.png
    480 AD at the Death of Nepos and Abolition of the Western Court by Emperor Zeno
     
  14. Lord Hastur of Carcosa Unspeakable

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    Armorica (Brittany) wasn't completely bust at the time. It was under the Authority of the Kingdom of Cornwall, possibly under some King Drustan, which may be the historic figure behind the literary Tristan.
    The whole "Tristan and Iseult" thing may be the attempt to establish an alliance with the Kingdom of Meath in Ireland, later transposed as a retelling of the classic love story of Diamart and Grainnè
     
  15. Sharklord1 Well-Known Member

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    Where did you get that from? I can’t find anything on it
     
  16. Lord Hastur of Carcosa Unspeakable

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    Worlds of Arthur by Guy Halsall, Oxford University Press

    The actual extent of the Cornish "Mark" is however open to debate. It could take only the westernmost tip of the Armorican peninsula, which is called Carnouaille, while the rest was possibly divided between two or three kingdoms.
    If I said more, I'd step out of actual historic fact and slip into legend and speculation, so, in doubt, s Minor Celtic or Minor Gaulish outline may do.
     
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  17. Sharklord1 Well-Known Member

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    Would you consider them just a tribe or an organized government? That’s really what makes it have color and/or borders on these maps
     
  18. Crazy Boris Cool Dood

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    Looks good, but Mexico is missing a fair bit, as shown on this map the Veracruz Culture, Mixtec, and Mayan states plus Xochipala

    Mesoamerica 500 AD.jpg
    (Mesoamerica 500 AD from Aztlanhistorian's deviantart)
     
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  19. Lord Hastur of Carcosa Unspeakable

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    That's the big question, as anything resembling an organized government was falling into chaos.
    According to later and rather confused lore, and recent archeological discovery, there was at least an attempt to maintain a government structure in the form of tribal alliance and the careful repurposing of old Roman "Technology" (mostly pottery and silverware).
    However, even in Roman times some local chieftains and stranded Generals tried to make up for the waning Imperial presence by organizing on their own; the most famous example was Macsen Wledig (High King Macsen) who was actually the Roman General Magnus Maximus. The Cornwall-Meath attempted alliance could be another example.

    In light of this, I'd consider Armorica as close to a failed state trying to hold a government together, sort of like a post-colonial African state today. I suggest gray outlined with the Cornish color.
     
  20. Sharklord1 Well-Known Member

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    I’ll patch it with the Aztlanhistorian patches