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Well, your TL's getting better but it could still use some more work and research. What kind of sources are you using? Just a hint, usually when someone redoes past portions of a TL they post the revised portion in a new section rather than merely editing the post. That way it's a bit less confusing.

I still think you're omitting quite a few major details about the war. Sure American victories at Queenston Heights, Stoney Creek, Châteauguay, and Chrysler's farm, but those are all still very minor in terms of scale and still don't account for the bulk of British forces in Quebec. You also leave out a huge chunk of the war by skipping straight to the Treaty of Ghent and in my opinion the British still haven't been thrashed enough to give up all of Canada save Newfoundland.

Here's another thing you should take into account: The officers that are turning the tide in these battles are acting completely against how they acted in OTL. You might want to take that into account. There's simply no way America can even try to win the War of 1812 with the sorry complement of officers they began the war with. The sooner you get guys like Dearborn, Chauncey, Hampton, and yes Rensselaer out of the picture the sooner better guys like Pike, Izard etc. can take their place, professionalize the American army and defeat the British.

On that note, your battle of Châteauguay is a bit unrealistic as destroying an abatis takes a bit of work. Also in your alternate Chrysler's Farm, the Americans charging and defeating British regulars at this stage in the game is unrealistic. American troops were no where near as disciplined until 1814 (due to the influence of Scott) and did poorly against British regulars in hand to hand combat due to the regulars' superior training and experience.

Here are some aspects of the War of 1812 you should cover in more detail to make this more realistic.

1) The Evacuation of Upper Canada
-What happens with Tecumseh and the native allies?
-Do the remaining British units stand and Fight or evacuate to Kingston?
-What role does William H. Harrison play in the conquest of Upper Canada? Perhaps he goes on to play a bigger role in the invasion of Lower Canada?
-What happens to Kingston? I'd expect there to be a major battle there.
-How is the situation on the Great Lakes dealt with? Obviously the British are going to try and maintain control over Lake Ontario to slow down the Americans' advance. I'd imagine ship construction will begin earlier leading to some battles on the lake in 1813.
-How does Britain react to the fall of Upper Canada? They aren't stupid. They are going to move forces to counteract American successes in the region. How does that all go down?

2) The Invasion of Lower Canada
-Obviously the main corridor is going to be the St. Lawrence due to simple logistical reasons. The Americans might also try an advance up Lake Champlain but that might be problematic due to the Federalist states' dislike of the war. (Arguably this will persist even with Rensselaer's victory at Queenston Heights).
-I'd wager you'd see several major Battles along the St. Lawrence proper, and a good deal of naval warfare with the British holding the upper hand due to French Canadian loyalty and their knowledge of the River itself (local pilots for gunboats etc).
-This is going to be a much bigger undertaking than OTL easily with troop numbers in the upper 10,000's for both sides. Given OTL British troop strengths.
-Obviously an increased American threat is going to lead to a greater British response. How does this work out?

3) Naval Warfare
-What's going on with this? Are the Americans more successful at sea? Do the British launch raids on the US coast in retaliation for Upper Canada? How does that go?

4) Actions in the South
-Do the British aid the Creek in the Creek War in TTL due to their weaker position in Canada (came very close to happening in OTL)
-Do the British make any moves on the Louisiana purchase? If so how does that turn out?

5)The end of the Napoleonic Wars
-With the end of the Napoleonic Wars, and a more successful America it's pretty likely that the British do end up shipping Wellington and his army over to end the situation. When he arrives the Americans are going to be hard pressed to defeat him.

6)America's Army?
-America needs to purge it's officer corps and get new blood in to win this war, no ands ifs or buts. This is going to be tough to do when they keep winning.

-America also needs to professionalize it's army to win the war. Again as long as they're victorious there's no need to do this and the officers in charge are going to be incredibly hesitant to do so.

-How is America funding this war? In OTL this was a major issue as Madison refused to recreate a National Bank for this purpose. Remember that the war of 1812 was fought on a shoestring and so too will this counterfactual war.
 
You're expecting people to be reading on Thanksgiving? Well, okay, nto everyone's watching football after stuffing themselves to the gills, but still...:)

Seriously, one thing you might consider is an early death of Tecumseh, before he starts to round up support to fight the U.S.. This would free up a good number of men, allow for strained relations instead of all-out war witht he natives, and still allow your initial battle to happen - it's just that it wouldn't be the actual POD, but a logical result from an earlier POD.

Of course, the British might try to foment an alliance with the Shawnee during the war, but I don't think you have to worry about butterflying the declaration of war away.
 
Just a friendly note: This board doesn't revolve around you, there's no need to freak out if someone doesn't answer you right away. Usually one waits at least 6 hours before bumping their thread and usually longer on major holidays such as American Thanksgiving.

As for criticism, most of my issues raised in my past posts still remain unresolved. I would suggest that you do some research on what actually happened in the War of 1812 especially in regards to the naval warfare, the south, and the events of 1814/1815 to improve the realism of your TL. Your depiction of Wellington especially reflects what I assume is a lack of knowledge, that's ok (nobody knows everything about everything) but if you want it to be realistic you're going to have to get some dates right (At the time of Chrysler's farm Wellington's still in Europe).

Now, if you're not interested in fleshing out the details of your alternate war of 1812 that's fine too. Many TL's don't go into a great level of detail, especially if the author is unsure of the specifics of a given subject.

That being said, even if you want to take a broader approach, you've got to do a better job explaining WHY the British would just keel over and give up all of Canada after only a few defeats. Again some research into what actually led to our history's version of the Treaty of Ghent would help you in this regard.

Basically, the only way to write good Alternate History is to be intimately familiar with what actually happened in our History. I know that I and many writers far better than me spend hours upon hours researching what actually happened to improve the quality of their alternate history.

As a first effort, your scenario is actually pretty good (mine IIRC was far, far worse). Keep working at it and doing research and I'm sure that in no time you'll be writing great stuff!
 
Here's the aftermath of the war.

Around the country grand celebrations took place finally the Redcoats had been taught a good lesson here's a list of Presidents:
James Madison 1809-1817 James Monroe 1817-1825 Stephen Rensselaer 1825-1833 Henry Clay 1833-1841 William Henry Harrison 1841 John Tyler 1841-1845 James Polk 1845-1849 Then came the Mexican American war....
 
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Listen guys i decided i needed to do more research as a result this thread is dead i will post a new version in the future thanks for the help
 
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