Protestantism in Iberia/Italy?

How could we get either an established Protestantism or a Huguenot-style major public opposition to Catholicism in the Iberian and Italian peninsulas? (And Sicily, Sardinia, the Balearics, etc, before Captain Literal and the Pedantic Brigade jump on me...)
 
Well, in Italy there were the Waldensians, who later became a Protestant Church even though they predated it. Maybe they make more converts.

I'm not really sure why Spain and Italy didn't have much of the Reformation IOTL though, that would help to clear it up.
 
Navarre could have been managed, I guess... (I'm thinking about Henry IV of France here...)

Protestant Venice? :confused:

You are confusing Navarre in Spain with what was called Kingdom of Navarre in France. Spanish Navarre was not different from the rest of Spain.

By the way the Reformation did not take hold on Spain because they had their "reformation" of their own. During the years of Isabel and Ferdinand the Cardinal Cisneros started a reform of the uses of the clergy, an improvement on their education and a cleaning of some vices. It was so harsh that there were even priests that fled to Morocco and there they converted to Islam.
 
Well, in Italy there were the Waldensians, who later became a Protestant Church even though they predated it. Maybe they make more converts.

I'm not really sure why Spain and Italy didn't have much of the Reformation IOTL though, that would help to clear it up.

Well the Reformation was fairly successful in northern Italy, but its success didn't last because of the Counter Reformation.
 
You are confusing Navarre in Spain with what was called Kingdom of Navarre in France. Spanish Navarre was not different from the rest of Spain.

By the way the Reformation did not take hold on Spain because they had their "reformation" of their own. During the years of Isabel and Ferdinand the Cardinal Cisneros started a reform of the uses of the clergy, an improvement on their education and a cleaning of some vices. It was so harsh that there were even priests that fled to Morocco and there they converted to Islam.

As I recall the Spanish state also had managed to wring concessions out of the Vatican while it was dealing with the Schism and Concilliarism, so that the state actually had a fair amount of control over the church within their country. Since the state already had a lot of control over the Catholic church, there was no reason for it to create a new protestant church to control.
 
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