Protect & Survive Miami: End of Watch

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Tsar of New Zealand

Good to have you back, WT. Hope the knee gets on the mend; I buggered my ITB last year and that was bad enough, actively tearing a hammy sounds much worse.

Good chapter, too. Has this been nominated for a Turtledove? Even if it doesn't win, it'd be a nice reflection of an excellent piece of work.
 

Unknown

It'll only be a matter of time, IMO, before they manage to get in touch with someone in Gainesville (and, maybe, other points west and north)...

Yeah, so far it's OK, but that won't last, especially if there are refugees coming from Miami-Fort Lauderdale-West Palm Beach, Tampa-St. Petersburg, or some combo of the two...

Oh, and the Klan definitely needs a good smackdown in this world...

Yeah, the weather's gonna be crap for some time; at least they're not in the northern United States or Canada...
 

Unknown

Interesting that the Fort Myers police chief is a Rhodes Scholar; speaking of which, Oxford is one of the few remaining universities in Britain (if @Will Ritson's Itchykoo Park oneshot is canon; it probably is), though it won't be handing out Rhodes scholarships. Not in the near future, anyway...

The Fort Myers PD is going to need all the help it can get, especially if my suspicions regarding refugees heading there is correct...
 

Tsar of New Zealand

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Interesting that the Fort Myers police chief is a Rhodes Scholar; speaking of which, Oxford is one of the few remaining universities in Britain (if @Will Ritson's Itchykoo Park oneshot is canon; it probably is), though it won't be handing out Rhodes scholarships. Not in the near future, anyway...

The Fort Myers PD is going to need all the help it can get, especially if my suspicions regarding refugees heading there is correct...
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IIRC Oxford makes it through; never mentioned as being hit (the rivalry with Cambridge ended rather spectacularly ITTL), and I got away with listing it as safe in my spinoff. But yeah, I think it'll be a good wee while before they're handing out degrees or scholarships again.
 

Unknown

Yeah, Oxford won their rivalry, but not in a way they wanted, IMHO...

As I said before, I don't envy any surviving leader after the exchange...
 

Roches

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I'm sure Cambridge will be back. Meanwhile perhaps St. Andrews can take its place in the rivalry. ;)
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St. Andrews is very close to Leuchars, an RAF base during the Cold War that's large enough to be a definite target. It's within the 5 psi overpressure zone for a 300 kT or 1 MT ground burst (it'd be a ground burst because the target is an airbase). Here's the NUKEMAP results for 300 kT. I'm not sure if Leuchars is struck in P&S canon but it was one of the targets for Operation Square Leg.
 

Mumbles

Roches said:
St. Andrews is very close to Leuchars, an RAF base during the Cold War that's large enough to be a definite target. It's within the 5 psi overpressure zone for a 300 kT or 1 MT ground burst (it'd be a ground burst because the target is an airbase). Here's the NUKEMAP results for 300 kT. I'm not sure if Leuchars is struck in P&S canon but it was one of the targets for Operation Square Leg.
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As an Air Defence base Leuchars would expect to be a first-strike target, but in canon it survived.
 

Canadian Dragon

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Yeah, the weather's gonna be crap for some time; at least they're not in the northern United States or Canada...
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There's also something that should make recovery after a global nuclear war in Florida and the Southeast US a bit easier - fewer hurricanes and tropical storms.

This would be mainly due to the cooling caused by all that soot and stuff thrown up into the air by a nuclear war, which means less in the way of heating and evaporation of the world's oceans. Not only just in the southeast US and Caribbean, but worldwide where tropical storms are frequent. Also, thunderstorms and tornadoes would be generally reduced in severity and frequency across North America and other regions destroyed by the nuclear war.
 

Unknown

BTW, @wolverinethad (and anyone else interested), here's a link to the Oxford Protect and Survive story, known as Itchycoo Park and written by @Will Ritson: https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/itchycoo-park-p-s-oxford.248609/

It's a fairly good oneshot (I'd hate to be an American student stuck there, although I'd think they'd like to evacuate them before the war breaks out, IMO) and discusses the emotions of the firemen forced to disperse in the countryside in Britain (this was in a scene in Threads)...
 

wolverinethad

Good morning, all!

As a colleague of mine said recently, sometimes you can succeed too well. In my case, I wrote a white paper for the fine folks at ONR in January about an exciting technology breakthrough, and they liked it, so that's become a full-blown project for me on top of what I had already. That's meant a lot of late hours and little free time, so I haven't been able to write. I appreciate the votes I got in the Turtledoves, even if I didn't win. I've won once before, so I'll always be a winner, just like the Oscars. ;)

That being said, I have a LOT of notifications (371!) to get through, and I am hoping that with my taxes now done, I can get a full chapter written today. I've missed writing and talking with you all, and I appreciate the continued loyalty to the story.
 

duckie

Don't Say It,. I just finished mine (Netherlands). The thing that has most disturbed me, is that only had fill in 3 Items, everything else was already put in by the Dutch IRS. In your Face Facebook, your no even in the big league.
 

wolverinethad

Fun fact: the house I located via Google Maps to be Manny's hideout (and verified on Zillow that it was standing in 1984), has an estimated value of over 500k, for a three bed, two bath house (in its defense, it is close to 2,000 sq. feet). The craziest thing is that during the real estate boom in 1987, it sold for, and I am not making this up, the records back it, $7.1 million dollars.

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wolverinethad

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7.1 million?!? Talk about a drop in prices...
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My favorite part is how it's described as having a view of the water, like a narrow canal/lagoon across the street is a real water view. LOL.

I think I figured out why it went for so much, though. The 7.1 million dude probably did so for two adjacent lots as well, which were built after the sale, and those two houses go for 649K and 519K, so probably made a good chunk of the money back if that's the case.
 
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