Has anybody mapped Ungern-Sternberg's ambitions for a revived mongol empire yet?
I always thought "North American Technate" had a very Orwellian vibe to it.Glad we finally have a QBAM of it. Compared with the rest of the world it looks... oddly disturbing.
It emphasized using protoMaxwellian means of control like SkinneriqnismI always thought "North American Technate" had a very Orwellian vibe to it.
Here we have an interesting article about suggested future Chinese foreign policy. Anyone want to map it?
>Bigger China
>Does not include the lost lands in Central Asia
I can’t tell if you’re taking the piss or not- doesn’t sound too hellish.From what I've heard, it would've made Nineteen Eighty Four look like Thomas the Tank Engine. Currency was to be abolished. Instead, citizens would be issued a lifelong certificate of distribution, with which they could receive goods. Citizens would work a cycle of four consecutive days, four hours a day, followed by three days off. This system would include holiday periods allocated to each citizen.
Oh, and if that wasn't bad enough, in 1943, so they wouldn't get banned during World War II, the Technocracy movement made military conscription part of this planned society of theirs, so not only would you be forced to work for this society, essentially like a robot on an assembly line, you would be forced to fight for it too. God knows how these people would've run a military.
The actual problems with techocracy were its distaste for democracy and its promotion of racism, sexism, and eugenics in the name of "rationality", not—god forbid—the institution of a sixteen-hour work week and the abolition of the wage system. Arguments can be made either way about the value of money under a society wherein all of life's essentials are provided free of charge, but calling that worse than Orwellian is a comical overstatement.From what I've heard, it would've made Nineteen Eighty Four look like Thomas the Tank Engine. Currency was to be abolished. Instead, citizens would be issued a lifelong certificate of distribution, with which they could receive goods. Citizens would work a cycle of four consecutive days, four hours a day, followed by three days off. This system would include holiday periods allocated to each citizen.
Oh, and if that wasn't bad enough, in 1943, so they wouldn't get banned during World War II, the Technocracy movement made military conscription part of this planned society of theirs, so not only would you be forced to work for this society, essentially like a robot on an assembly line, you would be forced to fight for it too. God knows how these people would've run a military.
i have no clue why Hainan is Indian
Akhand Bharat is a term used to describe a “greater India” as envisioned by Hindu nationalists. While this is the most common vision, this map here-
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shows it at its largest potential extent
The indigenous people there have linguistic and cultural links to Southeast Asia.i have no clue why Hainan is Indian
Not trying to defend Technocracy here, but I don't exactly see what's so inherently dystopian about this? It honestly sounds like people would work way less than they do irl,From what I've heard, it would've made Nineteen Eighty Four look like Thomas the Tank Engine. Currency was to be abolished. Instead, citizens would be issued a lifelong certificate of distribution, with which they could receive goods. Citizens would work a cycle of four consecutive days, four hours a day, followed by three days off. This system would include holiday periods allocated to each citizen.
The actual problems with techocracy were (..) not—god forbid—the institution of a sixteen-hour work week and the abolition of the wage system.
Not really the thread for it, but (maybe because @Nathan Bernacki formulated it a bit weirdly) you seem to be missing the point. It's not about the hoursyou work, it's about the fundamental premise that the state owns you, owns your labour, can assign you to work as it sees fit, and can even assign you to the front lines. It may be an ant-heap with reduced working hours, but technocracy would still be an ant-heap. One where all the little drones are merely expendable property of the government. (And when your intellectually superior rulers "rationally" coclude you have to be sterilised... or euthanised... you don't get to fight that decision, either.)Not trying to defend Technocracy here, but I don't exactly see what's so inherently dystopian about this? It honestly sounds like people would work way less than they do irl,
Sorry about that, I did misunderstand the point being made.Not really the thread for it, but (maybe because @Nathan Bernacki formulated it a bit weirdly) you seem to be missing the point. It's not about the hoursyou work, it's about the fundamental premise that the state owns you, owns your labour, can assign you to work as it sees fit, and can even assign you to the front lines. It may be an ant-heap with reduced working hours, but technocracy would still be an ant-heap. One where all the little drones are merely expendable property of the government. (And when your intellectually superior rulers "rationally" coclude you have to be sterilised... or euthanised... you don't get to fight that decision, either.)
To be clear: my point here is not to start an argument about the merits or demerits of technocracy, but rather to offer some insight in how I think Nathan's observation was indended, and why that makes technocracy rather scary.
Anyway, to get a bit back on topic: I must admit that the usual comments about how scary the Technate looks on a map are probably just because it always gets a scary colour! And because "Technate" doesn't sound warm and fuzzy. If you painted it light blue and called it the "Progressive Union" or something, most people would be far less inclined to suspect it of being a dystopia.