Has anybody mapped Ungern-Sternberg's ambitions for a revived mongol empire yet?
Proposals and War Aims That Didn't Happen Map Thread
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I always thought "North American Technate" had a very Orwellian vibe to it.
I mean, most of the technocracy movement was fascistic back in the day. Futurism was a major aesthetic- and one either needs to choose an ultra-nationalist or a socialist worldview to really pull off a Technate like that
Here we have an interesting article about suggested future Chinese foreign policy. Anyone want to map it?
csef.ru
Also, here's another article about a suggested redrawing of European borders by 2035.
www.eg.ru
And finally an idea for a United Europe, Union State and Enlarged Turkey by 2050.
Six wars in which China should participate in the next 50 years
On 8 July, Pro-government Chinese newspaper, Wenweipo, published an article titled “6 war that China must participate in the next 50 years.” 6 scheduled wars all in their order unification (irredentist) in their root development of the territories that Im
Also, here's another article about a suggested redrawing of European borders by 2035.
Россия поменяет Кавказ на Белоруссию и Украину
Геополитические эксперты составили вероятную карту Европы образца 2035
www.eg.ru
And finally an idea for a United Europe, Union State and Enlarged Turkey by 2050.
Europe 2050 - A Glimpse into the Future of Brexit
A powerful bloc of half a billion people in fulfilment of the dreams of the founding fathers of the EU. The EU to take the lead in international politics
michaelnimier.com
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Rather than wait I decided to do it myself.
A few notes on this:
- Taiwan is officially designated as a province by the PRC in the present day.
- Since none of the Islands in the SCS have any white pixels there was nothing there to color in.
- For "South Tibet" I added the PRC's current official territorial claims in India and Bhutan. The rest of Bhutan may also be included, though, the article isn't too clear about that.
- The Ryukyu Islands are the only expansion which, IIRC, hasn't previously been directly owned by China before.
- Returned lands in Russia include Tuva, Sakhalin and Outer Manchuria south of the 1689-1858 border.
- Tuva has been merged with Outer Mongolia, like how things used to be. With Outer Manchuria I decided to just keep the current Russian borders, giving a tiny speck of Zabaykalsky Krai to Amur Oblast.
Personally I find this version of China in 2060 to be much more aesthetically pleasing.
They're having enough trouble in Xinjiang, I don't think going further west would make things any easier.
Here's the original American plan for breaking up the Eastern Bloc: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captive_Nations
Also, in the first half of the Cold War West Germany still claimed it's interwar territories in Eastern Europe.
Also, in the first half of the Cold War West Germany still claimed it's interwar territories in Eastern Europe.
I can’t tell if you’re taking the piss or not- doesn’t sound too hellish.
The actual problems with techocracy were its distaste for democracy and its promotion of racism, sexism, and eugenics in the name of "rationality", not—god forbid—the institution of a sixteen-hour work week and the abolition of the wage system. Arguments can be made either way about the value of money under a society wherein all of life's essentials are provided free of charge, but calling that worse than Orwellian is a comical overstatement.
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i have no clue why Hainan is Indian
Akhand Bharat is a term used to describe a “greater India” as envisioned by Hindu nationalists. While this is the most common vision, this map here-
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shows it at its largest potential extent
The indigenous people there have linguistic and cultural links to Southeast Asia.
Not trying to defend Technocracy here, but I don't exactly see what's so inherently dystopian about this? It honestly sounds like people would work way less than they do irl,
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Not really the thread for it, but (maybe because @Nathan Bernacki formulated it a bit weirdly) you seem to be missing the point. It's not about the hoursyou work, it's about the fundamental premise that the state owns you, owns your labour, can assign you to work as it sees fit, and can even assign you to the front lines. It may be an ant-heap with reduced working hours, but technocracy would still be an ant-heap. One where all the little drones are merely expendable property of the government. (And when your intellectually superior rulers "rationally" coclude you have to be sterilised... or euthanised... you don't get to fight that decision, either.)
To be clear: my point here is not to start an argument about the merits or demerits of technocracy, but rather to offer some insight in how I think Nathan's observation was indended, and why that makes technocracy rather scary.
Anyway, to get a bit back on topic: I must admit that the usual comments about how scary the Technate looks on a map are probably just because it always gets a scary colour! And because "Technate" doesn't sound warm and fuzzy. If you painted it light blue and called it the "Progressive Union" or something, most people would be far less inclined to suspect it of being a dystopia.
Sorry about that, I did misunderstand the point being made.Not really the thread for it, but (maybe because @Nathan Bernacki formulated it a bit weirdly) you seem to be missing the point. It's not about the hoursyou work, it's about the fundamental premise that the state owns you, owns your labour, can assign you to work as it sees fit, and can even assign you to the front lines. It may be an ant-heap with reduced working hours, but technocracy would still be an ant-heap. One where all the little drones are merely expendable property of the government. (And when your intellectually superior rulers "rationally" coclude you have to be sterilised... or euthanised... you don't get to fight that decision, either.)
To be clear: my point here is not to start an argument about the merits or demerits of technocracy, but rather to offer some insight in how I think Nathan's observation was indended, and why that makes technocracy rather scary.
Anyway, to get a bit back on topic: I must admit that the usual comments about how scary the Technate looks on a map are probably just because it always gets a scary colour! And because "Technate" doesn't sound warm and fuzzy. If you painted it light blue and called it the "Progressive Union" or something, most people would be far less inclined to suspect it of being a dystopia.