Proposals and War Aims That Didn't Happen Map Thread

1911 Kennard Thompson proposed to enlarge New York

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Since it's related I thought it'd be relevant to quote what I put in the map thread:

This is a map on an alternate New York City I made based in a world where a whole bunch of past predictions of the future that is now as well as scientific misconceptions and obsolete scientific theories of the 20th century primarily are true and / or come true. My partner helped me by doing the phonetic spelling of all of these based on these links:
https://www.ling.upenn.edu/courses/Fall_2014/ling115/phonetics.html

So thank you to them, and here's the plan for an expanded NYC this is based on:


This world is known as the 'Retro-Present' universe

The reason the New Island is made into a new borough is because other predictions say that by 2000 America would have, at max, 500,000,000 people and at minimum 350,000,000, and I thought that since NYC's population would grow so big considering America is so big that it warranted a new borough. I do plan on making this into a timeline eventually.

If you want to help me plz send links of predictions, preferably dystopian or middle ground since I mostly have utopian shit, preferably original sources but I'll appreciate it regardless, and also stuff on misconceptions from the 20th century and obsolete scientific theories from then too, or things from even before then if they are interesting enough, thank you

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The North American Technate, a social and ideological movement which arose in the early 20th century and was briefly popular in America and Canada in the 1930's. The Technocracy movement proposed replacing all politicians and businesspeople with scientists and engineers who had the technical expertise to manage the economy. The idea was a fully self-sustaining nation stretching across all of North America, as well as a totally reformed calendar and working schedule.

(A Qbam version of an older post of mine for anyone who hasn't seen it until now.)
 
The North American Technate, a social and ideological movement which arose in the early 20th century and was briefly popular in America and Canada in the 1930's. The Technocracy movement proposed replacing all politicians and businesspeople with scientists and engineers who had the technical expertise to manage the economy. The idea was a fully self-sustaining nation stretching across all of North America, as well as a totally reformed calendar and working schedule.

Glad we finally have a QBAM of it. Compared with the rest of the world it looks... oddly disturbing.
 
I mean, most of the technocracy movement was fascistic back in the day. Futurism was a major aesthetic- and one either needs to choose an ultra-nationalist or a socialist worldview to really pull off a Technate like that
 
Here we have an interesting article about suggested future Chinese foreign policy. Anyone want to map it?


Also, here's another article about a suggested redrawing of European borders by 2035.


And finally an idea for a United Europe, Union State and Enlarged Turkey by 2050.

 
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Here we have an interesting article about suggested future Chinese foreign policy. Anyone want to map it?

Rather than wait I decided to do it myself.

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A few notes on this:

- Taiwan is officially designated as a province by the PRC in the present day.
- Since none of the Islands in the SCS have any white pixels there was nothing there to color in.
- For "South Tibet" I added the PRC's current official territorial claims in India and Bhutan. The rest of Bhutan may also be included, though, the article isn't too clear about that.
- The Ryukyu Islands are the only expansion which, IIRC, hasn't previously been directly owned by China before.
- Returned lands in Russia include Tuva, Sakhalin and Outer Manchuria south of the 1689-1858 border.
- Tuva has been merged with Outer Mongolia, like how things used to be. With Outer Manchuria I decided to just keep the current Russian borders, giving a tiny speck of Zabaykalsky Krai to Amur Oblast.

Personally I find this version of China in 2060 to be much more aesthetically pleasing.
 
From what I've heard, it would've made Nineteen Eighty Four look like Thomas the Tank Engine. Currency was to be abolished. Instead, citizens would be issued a lifelong certificate of distribution, with which they could receive goods. Citizens would work a cycle of four consecutive days, four hours a day, followed by three days off. This system would include holiday periods allocated to each citizen.

Oh, and if that wasn't bad enough, in 1943, so they wouldn't get banned during World War II, the Technocracy movement made military conscription part of this planned society of theirs, so not only would you be forced to work for this society, essentially like a robot on an assembly line, you would be forced to fight for it too. God knows how these people would've run a military.
I can’t tell if you’re taking the piss or not- doesn’t sound too hellish.
 
From what I've heard, it would've made Nineteen Eighty Four look like Thomas the Tank Engine. Currency was to be abolished. Instead, citizens would be issued a lifelong certificate of distribution, with which they could receive goods. Citizens would work a cycle of four consecutive days, four hours a day, followed by three days off. This system would include holiday periods allocated to each citizen.

Oh, and if that wasn't bad enough, in 1943, so they wouldn't get banned during World War II, the Technocracy movement made military conscription part of this planned society of theirs, so not only would you be forced to work for this society, essentially like a robot on an assembly line, you would be forced to fight for it too. God knows how these people would've run a military.
The actual problems with techocracy were its distaste for democracy and its promotion of racism, sexism, and eugenics in the name of "rationality", not—god forbid—the institution of a sixteen-hour work week and the abolition of the wage system. Arguments can be made either way about the value of money under a society wherein all of life's essentials are provided free of charge, but calling that worse than Orwellian is a comical overstatement.
 
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An in-jest proposal to partition Thuringia among its neighboring states by the satirical magazine Der Postillon, inspired by the current political crisis in the state.
 
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