Proposals and War Aims That Didn't Happen Map Thread

Imagine these dead, empty suburbs spreading beyond the horizon, there would be no sound but the noise of wind and the occasional loudspeaker blaring propaganda, below them would be the bodies of millions of slaves.

Damn... that’s legitimately terrifying to imagine, I can almost picture the look of the place - and long after the probable self destruction of the Reich these empty sprawls would be a sort of Chernobyl like place assuming they aren’t repopulated.
 

Crazy Boris

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Damn... that’s legitimately terrifying to imagine, I can almost picture the look of the place - and long after the probable self destruction of the Reich these empty sprawls would be a sort of Chernobyl like place assuming they aren’t repopulated.

Imagine 300 years later and it’s long been forgotten where these neighbourhoods came from but they’re populated now, and some kid decides to dig a hole in their backyard only to come across a huge graveyard under the entire town with tens of thousands of skeletons and the inhabitants slowly begin to piece together the grim origins of their home, it’s like something out of a horror movie.
 
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Btw this is Wolfenstein concept art, the real thing would have been less "industrial":
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I'm not an architect or engineer, so out of curiosity, in the event of a Nazi victory, how feasible would these construction plans actually be? I'm not sure about the Volkshalle in particular.
Not feasible in the slightest. Berlin lays ontop marshy ground, in fact, Berlin's name is thought to be derived from the Old Polabian word for swamp. This poses a multitude of problems when it comes to construction, especially footings and load distribution. Berlin's soil isn't strong enough to withstand something as grand and heavy as the Volkshalle. There was a test conducted by Speer: the Schwerbelastungskörper, the tl;dr of the wiki page says that anything before a 6 cm drop would be deemed suitable for further construction, in actuality, the concrete cylinder sank 19 cm in 2 1/2 years.
 
EAU: One of the Putin administration’s most successful projects has been the formation of the Eurasian Economic Union, which Putin aims to expand into a competitor to the European Union, with a similar structure. In June of 2016 during a visit to China, he suggested that the Union could eventually encompass all of the post-Soviet states plus Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, China and Mongolia. By April of 2018 he had also sent invitations to Turkey and Syria. It appears that Putin’s goal here is to consolidate Russia’s allies in Eurasia under a single organisation in order the strengthen ties between them. It should be noted that for this to work, several nations would have to be pulled out of the Western Bloc.

Looks like this should be updated to include Albania and North Macedonia too.

https://www.silkroadbriefing.com/ne...north-macedonia-join-eurasian-economic-union/
 
That’s a good question. As some were upset at the size of Texas at the time, I could see it being its own state (sort of a rump Rio Grande Republic, in that it’s a republican government and would probably be called Rio Grande). More interesting is whether they’d go ahead with the plan to split California (including Baja, of course), because everyone was upset at how big it was OTL.
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Where's that map from?
 
Where's that map from?
It's from the excellent book Lost States: True Stories of Texlahoma, Transylvania, and Other States that Never Made It, by Michael J. Trinklein. It's got a bunch of maps and brief descriptions of states that were proposed but never came to fruition. It's pretty interesting, and was my first introduction to alternate history.
 
It's from the excellent book Lost States: True Stories of Texlahoma, Transylvania, and Other States that Never Made It, by Michael J. Trinklein. It's got a bunch of maps and brief descriptions of states that were proposed but never came to fruition. It's pretty interesting, and was my first introduction to alternate history.
Same. I got that book in like 4th grade.
 
That’s a good question. As some were upset at the size of Texas at the time, I could see it being its own state (sort of a rump Rio Grande Republic, in that it’s a republican government and would probably be called Rio Grande). More interesting is whether they’d go ahead with the plan to split California (including Baja, of course), because everyone was upset at how big it was OTL.
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I'm curious about why they wouldn't just divide California directly along the 36-30 line, given that the debate over whether California would be a free state or a slave state was the main reason for people calling for it to be divided (at least to my knowledge).
 
I'm curious about why they wouldn't just divide California directly along the 36-30 line, given that the debate over whether California would be a free state or a slave state was the main reason for people calling for it to be divided (at least to my knowledge).
To my knowledge that was about the plan originally, though maybe some plans deviated from that?
 
I'm curious about why they wouldn't just divide California directly along the 36-30 line, given that the debate over whether California would be a free state or a slave state was the main reason for people calling for it to be divided (at least to my knowledge).

I think it's based on the counties that were almost entirely below 36-30...
 

ninel

Banned
Imagine one second, Moscow (or any other large soviet city, Moscow was supposed to be transformed into a lake but it's kinda unlikely, but you can replace it with Stalingrad or Leningrad)
What about a non-Soviet city?

The Pabst Plan (German: Neue deutsche Stadt Warschau, "New German city of Warsaw") was a Nazi German urban plan to reconstruct the city of Warsaw as a Nazi model city. Named after its creator Friedrich Pabst, the Nazis' "Chief Architect for Warsaw", the plan assumed that Warsaw, the historical capital of Poland and a city of 1.5 million inhabitants, would be completely destroyed and rebuilt as a small German town of not more than 130,000 inhabitants.

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It's from the excellent book Lost States: True Stories of Texlahoma, Transylvania, and Other States that Never Made It, by Michael J. Trinklein. It's got a bunch of maps and brief descriptions of states that were proposed but never came to fruition. It's pretty interesting, and was my first introduction to alternate history.

I wonder if they have anything on Nevada
 
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