That would be an interesting way to establish a semi-realistic origin story for the Draka. Rather than beginning primarily as a refuge for American Loyalists, they are simply British convicts.
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That would be an interesting way to establish a semi-realistic origin story for the Draka. Rather than beginning primarily as a refuge for American Loyalists, they are simply British convicts.
Wait, so you're saying that Draka was created by American loyalists?
In Stirling's work, the Draka began as a colony in South Africa established to provide refuge for British colonists in what would become the United States after they lost the American Revolutionary War.
Why not? Australia wasn't widely called as such until the early 19th century, and it just means "southern land." Hell, they could call it Antarctica and it'd be fine.
But then Australia wouldn't be Australia. Even if penal colonies are established there, it'd still probably be called South Africa.
And as we all know, American Loyalists were the most evil people on Earth.
And as we all know, American Loyalists were the most evil people on Earth.
In his timeline, they became racist, pansexual BDSM enthusiasts.
In our timeline, they became Canadians.
Go figure.
Australia MEANS southern land but it DERIVES FROM the Latin name of the same meaning for a supposed southern continent. Australia IMPLIES a large southern continent that was not known to the precolonial Europeans. Antarctica is a possibility, it was used for other colonies in the southern hemisphere (like France Antarctique, in Argentina), though South Africa is more likely. Any other names that are generally southern (Antarctica, Antipodea), generally African (South Africa, outdated names for Africa like Lybia are possible too), or connect to a local tribe, or pseudo historical group, native name (Monomotapa/Mupata, Namibia, Namaland, Awambia [these are all assuming the colony starts around Namibia]) or major regional British colonial figure.
I remember Alex Richard’s and Reagent Short timeline https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...s-oh-my-a-tliad-collaborative-motm-tl.320743/
It had a federal (in a very messy way) South Africa that was settled to the extent of Australia IRL by brits (while Australia is french ITTL), I think with such a POD you wouldn’t really be able to have a draka as the settler population wouldn’t be that big, just Australia sized (although it would likely have overwhelming influence in Southern Africa), also the whole situation and population and history of South Africa makes the establishment of a stable and united country harder than Australia IMO
Puritans somehow going to the cape, or a French colony in the cape settled by Hugenots both seem like they would be early enough and have the settler popualtion necessary to create a semi-draka that could annexes significant part of Southern Africa while having a settler population above the hundred million today.
There’s also the Luso-Draka, or Brazil-in-Southern-Africa, that can achieve similar results but likely requires a POD in the 1490s
Now I have a mental image of Draka crucifying someone very politely.
I randomly found this map while trying to find information to edit my Worlda maps for the thread:
I might just be the luckiest person alive (more proposals for US-Spain border in 1780s)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/Spanish_North_America.png
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/Spanish_North_America.png
The Spanish weren't afraid to dream big, weren't they?
Big dreams, looooooooooooooooooong place names.
Have you seen how long some place names are in formerly-Spanish America? Admittedly they use separate words, but they are still really long.