Proposals and War Aims That Didn't Happen Map Thread

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  1. Albidoom Fuzzy Thing

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  2. ST15RM Ich bin ein AH.commer!

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  3. Analytical Engine Monarchist Collectivist Federalist

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    Because anti-Semitism.

    Early on, a lot of non-Jewish support for Zionism came from people who wanted any excuse to have fewer Jews in their own country.
     
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  4. Admiral A. Kolchak Supreme Leader

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  5. varyar Who?

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  6. Admiral A. Kolchak Supreme Leader

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    We all know who designed this proposal, right? :p
     
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  7. Analytical Engine Monarchist Collectivist Federalist

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    Either (a) Laziness, or (b) zer Germans and zer Soviets are plotting.
     
  8. varyar Who?

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    It's like Hitler Anschlussed his way all the way to the Aegean.
     
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  9. Analytical Engine Monarchist Collectivist Federalist

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    Well, they were clearly ancestral Aryan lands.
     
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  10. Mr. Bubbles Well-Known Member

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    Here we have Seven days to the River Rhine, what may be one of the most insane invasion plans ever conceived. Put together by Soviet strategists and military theorists in 1979, it was their plan for winning the Cold War in a conventional manner.

    Word for word, the plan involved the following:
    • It assumed that NATO would launch a first strike, hitting 25 Polish cities along the River Vistula, from Gdansk to Katowice, all the way down to the Slovak border. This would cut off Soviet supply lines to East Germany, which they believed would be the first stage of a NATO invasion. 2 million poles were predicted to die in this attack. They also assumed later strikes would take place in cities such as Budapest.
    • In response, the Soviets intended to launch their own tactical nukes on the following targets: Stuttgart, Munich, Nuremberg, Hamburg, Frankfurt, Dusseldorf, Cologne, Bonn, Brussels, Antwerp, Amsterdam, Roskilde, Esbjerg, Vicenza, Verona, and Padova. They believed this wouldn't escalate into full-scale nuclear war since none of these countries had nukes of their own.
    • At the same time, they were going to launch nuclear strikes across Austria as well, including two 500-kiloton strikes on Vienna, before it was to be invaded and captured by Czech-Hungarian forces.
    • Once this nuclear campaign was complete, Soviet forces would pour across the North German Plain, the Fulda Gap, and the new route opened up by capturing Austria. Their goal would be to travel across the radioactive wasteland they'd created, defeating all NATO forces, capturing Denmark, and reaching the River Rhine. All of this was to be accomplished in just a week, hence where the name of the plan comes from.
    • If all of that were to be accomplished, the Soviet forces would then continue on through Belgium, the Netherlands, and Luxembourg before moving into France. Here, the goal was to punch all the way through the country and reach the border with Spain inside another week. Tactical nukes weren't going to be used here, since they were afraid of escalating things. You know, more than they already had.
    • In the North Atlantic, Soviet submarines were to sink any NATO ships travelling to Europe in order to cut off supply lines and prevent the Americans from landing troops on European soil.
    So, to recap, the Warsaw Pact planned to sweep through West Germany and France in just 14 days, somehow use tactical nukes on several countries without escalating things into nuclear war, and just kind of assume reaching the Spanish border would end the war in their favor.
     
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  11. htgriffin Member

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    For what very little it is worth, they seem to be operating under the presumption that NATO starts things with a "limited" nuking of their own.
     
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    Never mind that crossing the Rhine would trigger a "total" bombing.
     
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  13. Mr. Bubbles Well-Known Member

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    SDTTRR.png Man, look at all those nukes targets

    And they were sure this wouldn't escalate into World War III.
     
  14. Christory Well-Known Member

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    1. Is this MBAM? If so, can someone make a QBAM adaptation?
    2. Is this every target?
    3. Is there an actual list of targets?
     
  15. Chris S Member

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    Why should they? It's just your run-of-the-mill tactical nuclear warfare scenario. I mean, who really wants to start a Third World War over a couple of tactical nukes? :openedeyewink:
     
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  16. Kikkomaan Seasoning your life

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    The Vistula just fucking evaporates
     
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  17. Iserlohn Amateur Cartographer

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    "Propaganda poster encouraging American involvement in World War I by depicting the Prussian army as enslaving Europe, on sheet 76x51"

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    I find stuff like the pre-Balkan Wars borders of Greece and the clearly Ottoman Dodecanese fascinating. Also the notion of the entire Central Powers as a Greater Germany is fascinating.
     
  18. Ivoshafen Just A Man From Gondor - Recovering from SATS

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    The phrasing of this goddamned sentence nearly killed me.
     
  19. Admiral A. Kolchak Supreme Leader

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    The Russians bombed Sinop so hard the smoke is now visible from space :p
     
  20. Euskadi Herria Banned

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    I must agree, it is weirdly amusing.
     
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