Proposals and War Aims That Didn't Happen Map Thread

Discussion in 'Alternate History Maps and Graphics' started by Beedok, Jun 15, 2014.

  1. MountainPuncher A guy who destroys mountains for a living

    Oct 6, 2014
    Socialist Republic of Canuckistan.
  2. Drex Alférez de caballería

    Apr 23, 2017
    Regum Valentiae, Monarchia Hispaniae
    Thay also claimed Iberia.
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  3. taxidea Well-Known Member

    Sep 18, 2017
    I'm pretty sure that the map you are basing this on was a fake. If I remember it was made by an anti-muslim group. The map also just doesn't make much sense. Take all of that territory but leave out areas like Indonesia, it just doesn't make sense.
  4. Analytical Engine Monarchist Collectivist Federalist

    Mar 12, 2007
    UK, EU (for the moment), Earth
    Also, why, if you are claiming India, would you leave out the heavily Muslim Bangladesh? Or not claim Tartarstan, etc?
  5. killertahu22 I Hate Ronald Reagan

    May 30, 2015
    These were my first thoughts as well
  6. Crying Your ideology is shit, SHIIIIIIIIT

    Jan 9, 2017
    A Boring Dystopia
    Honestly though, the [supposed] Daesh/ISIS map based off of a Victoria 2 basemap is still one of the funniest things

    Also, these plans were already covered towards the very beginning of the thread
  7. Thon Taddeo Well-Known Member

    Dec 23, 2008
  8. Christory Well-Known Member

    Oct 16, 2018
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  9. Spiritual Sausage Well-Known Member

    Jun 14, 2014
    Whats the obsession with having southern Ukraine go to Russia? I'm fairly certain they aren't majority Russian like Donbass or Crimea
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  10. xmoose Well-Known Member

    Aug 18, 2016
    1. Odessa
    2. Transsynistria
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  11. Ulyanovsk Formerly Viralworld Donor

    Mar 23, 2017
    The Zapatista Autonomous Principalities
    I think it’s more strategic and economic reasons then cultural.
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  12. Skallagrim Not the one from YouTube. Different other fellow.

    Feb 5, 2014
    There is the fact that prior to the whole Ukrainian chaos truly erupted, the South-East of the country was the power-base of the pro-Russian faction, and the North-West was the power-base of the pro-EU/NATO faction. I think a lot of Russian ultranationalists believed/hoped that the more pro-Russian regions of Ukraine would happily welcome Russian 'protection' and/or become an indpendent Russian ally in the event of Ukrainian balkanisation.

    As it transpired, Ukrainian nationalism, fanned on by the escalating situation, was a lot stronger than the historical preference of 'friendship with Russia' over 'friendship with the West'. The vast majority of ethnic Ukrainians almost immediately shifted to the nationalist (Western-backed) camp, and only ethnic russians and certain other minorities favoured joining Russia. Hence, separatism in Crimea and 'Novorossiya' (both majority non-Ukrainian).

    I'm not even sure if even any Russian ultranationalist still claims the 'optimistic' borders they initially desired. That was just a pipe-dream, it has faded, and now even the most rabid nationalists only claim Crimea and Novorossiya (as far as I know; I may be underestimating the lunacy of some extremists).
  13. oshron Emperor of Rplegacy

    Aug 14, 2010
    Empire of Rplegacy
    Putinist imperialism ;) :p
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  14. Christory Well-Known Member

    Oct 16, 2018
    Not a majority, but a very large portion. Also, that area has been part of Russia for centuries, plus there's the other reasons.

    Not lunacy if you take into account the possibility of a proper Russian intervention.
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  15. Albidoom Fuzzy Thing

    May 12, 2004
    Grand Duchy of Baden
    Just stumbled over this at reddit:
    (sorry they had no better quality)

  16. DrWalpurgis ha ha ha OH WELL

    Jun 24, 2018
    Sussex by the sea
    This Crimson Skies reboot looks terrific!
  17. Christory Well-Known Member

    Oct 16, 2018
    So it doesn't say who the "conquerers" would be, but by reading between the lines and with a bit of intuition, here's what I can conclude:

    Yellow = Japan
    Pinkish? = Mexico
    Green = Canada
    Red = Britain, likely with Spain taking Florida

    So, can someone QBAM and/or Worlda this?
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  18. Anton2181 Member

    Apr 20, 2015
    "Poland in her Natural Borders" by Oskar Żebrowski, 1847
  19. Admiral A. Kolchak Supreme Leader

    May 2, 2017
    It's beautiful.
  20. Fox-Fire I've jumped into the fire.

    Sep 18, 2013
    Santiago de Chile
    I'm afraid I can't make sense of the image on the left side of the map.