Proposals and War Aims That Didn't Happen Map Thread
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Vuu
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Chetnik leader Stevan Moljević's plans for a post-WW2 Yugoslavia, where Croatia is severely 'punished for its actions' and both Serbia & Slovenia get to fulfil their nationalist territorial dreams
...and some worlda patches for it
Heh, I wouldn't mind this lol. Though as I see it that's probably what he would have demanded, to still get a lot - you know, kinda when you try to sell sumn and give the first price as larger than you want, then the buyer will reduce it to the price you actually want (or get more than expected, hehe)
I wonder how long it would last till Uncle Joe turns it into a "People's Democracy".Chetnik leader Stevan Moljević's plans for a post-WW2 Yugoslavia, where Croatia is severely 'punished for its actions' and both Serbia & Slovenia get to fulfil their nationalist territorial dreams
...and some worlda patches for it
But i think it's possible if the Chetniks alongside the Bosnians/Croatians somehow managed to crush the Yugoslav Partisans.
Vuu
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That's an gross... oversimplification of things. At that point some future conflict was an inevitability (and still is, if anyone tells you otherwise, they're wearing rose-tinted glasses and get high of wishful thinking). And if conflict is inevitable, at least you can hope that your side wins tbh
I'm pretty sure that the map you are basing this on was a fake. If I remember it was made by an anti-muslim group. The map also just doesn't make much sense. Take all of that territory but leave out areas like Indonesia, it just doesn't make sense.
Also, why, if you are claiming India, would you leave out the heavily Muslim Bangladesh? Or not claim Tartarstan, etc?
Honestly though, the [supposed] Daesh/ISIS map based off of a Victoria 2 basemap is still one of the funniest things
Also, these plans were already covered towards the very beginning of the thread
Also, these plans were already covered towards the very beginning of the thread
I'd like to see this implausible map be done one day.
The administrative divisions of Bulgaria during the First World War, including occupied territory.
Can someone Worlda or QBAM Vladimir Zhirinovsky's proposed partition of Ukraine?
Or this plan from another Russian government official?
Or the proposed partition of Russia described here: http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/09/03/expecting-world-war-iii-how-the-world-will-change/
Or this plan from another Russian government official?
Or the proposed partition of Russia described here: http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/09/03/expecting-world-war-iii-how-the-world-will-change/
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Whats the obsession with having southern Ukraine go to Russia? I'm fairly certain they aren't majority Russian like Donbass or Crimea
I think it’s more strategic and economic reasons then cultural.
Skallagrim
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There is the fact that prior to the whole Ukrainian chaos truly erupted, the South-East of the country was the power-base of the pro-Russian faction, and the North-West was the power-base of the pro-EU/NATO faction. I think a lot of Russian ultranationalists believed/hoped that the more pro-Russian regions of Ukraine would happily welcome Russian 'protection' and/or become an indpendent Russian ally in the event of Ukrainian balkanisation.
As it transpired, Ukrainian nationalism, fanned on by the escalating situation, was a lot stronger than the historical preference of 'friendship with Russia' over 'friendship with the West'. The vast majority of ethnic Ukrainians almost immediately shifted to the nationalist (Western-backed) camp, and only ethnic russians and certain other minorities favoured joining Russia. Hence, separatism in Crimea and 'Novorossiya' (both majority non-Ukrainian).
I'm not even sure if even any Russian ultranationalist still claims the 'optimistic' borders they initially desired. That was just a pipe-dream, it has faded, and now even the most rabid nationalists only claim Crimea and Novorossiya (as far as I know; I may be underestimating the lunacy of some extremists).
As it transpired, Ukrainian nationalism, fanned on by the escalating situation, was a lot stronger than the historical preference of 'friendship with Russia' over 'friendship with the West'. The vast majority of ethnic Ukrainians almost immediately shifted to the nationalist (Western-backed) camp, and only ethnic russians and certain other minorities favoured joining Russia. Hence, separatism in Crimea and 'Novorossiya' (both majority non-Ukrainian).
I'm not even sure if even any Russian ultranationalist still claims the 'optimistic' borders they initially desired. That was just a pipe-dream, it has faded, and now even the most rabid nationalists only claim Crimea and Novorossiya (as far as I know; I may be underestimating the lunacy of some extremists).