Proposals and War Aims That Didn't Happen Map Thread

Discussion in 'Alternate History Maps and Graphics' started by Beedok, Jun 15, 2014.

  1. Baconheimer Berserker of Chaos

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    No I mean those colored artillery pieces. I can’t seem to make sense of them.
     
  2. LSCatilina Vassican Labosiotos Vergagnatos

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    Aren't these the supposed ethnicities of armed forces, acting in these cantons?
     
  3. Clandango Disestablishmentarianist

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    Yep, that would fit the key. Never noticed that was the purpose before.
    Also, it seems that the whole proposal is basically to get everything Deutsch ever controlled into one big conglomerate, with some military frontiers in Russia to apparently protect against them, and buffer states against Muslims everywhere. Including the oddity of the Serbian-Albanian thing that has almost no Serbs. And oddly enough, there is no key for the pink color showing the English, Scandinavians, and Balts. Almost a shame there aren't more Military Frontiers, as it seems like the map is inspired by some loony mixture of Austrian natoinalism and Revolutoinary French Ratoinalism. Of the sort which makes the pro in all map a checkerboard and makes the calendar metric.
     
  4. Crying Your ideology is shit, SHIIIIIIIIT

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    If I remember correctly, they aren't. The reason the 'kantons' are all long strips of land is because they aren't meant to be based off of ethnicity - the creators (who were pacifists, which makes the presence of what seem to be armies puzzling) thought that this would help create peace.

    I may be misremembering, though.
     
  5. Mr. Bubbles Well-Known Member

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    Belgium had some truly insane colonial ambitions
     
  6. Etruscan-enthusiast35 master of the ancient art of schlock

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    Well, keep in mind who their leader at the time was.
     
  7. Mr. Bubbles Well-Known Member

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    Yep, King Leopold "gimme a hand" II

    God, that makes me dread to think of all the atrocities that could happen in this giant empire.
     
  8. FancyHat Well-Known Member

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    These were actually projects under Leopold I, and likely would have been pretty small if any of them had been undertaken.
     
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  9. Etruscan-enthusiast35 master of the ancient art of schlock

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    That would make sense, but we're talking eighteenth century empire building-minded European Monarchs, small is not typically in their vocabulary.
     
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  10. FancyHat Well-Known Member

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    Well, 19th, and regardless these colonies would look more like Santo Tomás than the Congo Free State. These were conceived as settler colonies, not economic.
     
  11. Etruscan-enthusiast35 master of the ancient art of schlock

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    Didn't realize I put eighteenth century.
     
  12. Mitro I am Mitro

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    I'm assuming you watched my video?
     
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  13. Clandango Disestablishmentarianist

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    I imagine this included basically colonies/communities of Belgians, Flemings, or Walloons in general. And I feel we should see your sources on some of these.
     
  14. Mr. Bubbles Well-Known Member

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    I did, and it was a really good one!
    It seems like Belgium hardly ever gets any attention in alternate history, which is a real shame, especially with insanely ambitious plans like these.
     
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  15. Mr. Bubbles Well-Known Member

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  16. Luminous Headwing Consulting

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    ...Is Belgium trying to become a James Bond villain?
     
  17. Crazy Boris Cool Dood

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    Well
    they got the Congo and Santo Tomas

    so like... 1.5/~50 potential colonies

    Here you go, Belgium, take this:
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  18. Umbric Man Umbric Manned

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    Dr. Evil spent his childhood summers in Belgium, if that counts for anything.
     
  19. Luminous Headwing Consulting

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    ...I had forgotten that.

    It all makes SENSE
     
  20. LSCatilina Vassican Labosiotos Vergagnatos

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    While the list is impressive, there's no much sourcing there, even in the philosophy's essay footnotes you're linking, tough.
    I searched a bit, and this is what I found
    It mentions Guatemala, New Hebridae, Congo (I mean, of course), Ethiopia, etc. But note that all of these papers are NOT systematically about colonial projects as such : for instance the Compagnie de Colonisation du Guatemala was not about taking over the territory of Guatemala, but a colony in the sense of establishing a litteral settlement of Belgians and Belgian owners there to tie local economies and population to Belgium, as you had settlements of Europeans and Americans in Latin America in the XIXth and XXth

    I think there might be a certain...hastiness trying to consider colonies' projects in Florida or India as being litterally the same than what was made in Congo.