I didn’t claim that it was new, merely on-topic given the discussion of embiggened Albanian borders.
Proposals and War Aims That Didn't Happen Map Thread
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Here's the thing
You can be a famous celebrity and show national pride, but tweeting out nationalist proposals is bound to anger some people, especially her Serbian fans.
i don't think she has serbian fans
or at least, enough serbian fans to form a substantial vocal group
Hey, if there's System of a Down fans in Turkey (and AIUI there are quite a few of them 
) , there can be Dua Lipa fans in Serbia...
) , there can be Dua Lipa fans in Serbia...I think this goes here:
I've never heard of this proposed state of Roosevelt before.
I've never heard of this proposed state of Roosevelt before.
According to Dan Berger's article "The Malcolm X Doctrine", referencing a 1969 Esquire article "Birth of a Black Nation", "Radicals at the 1967 Black Power conference had debated whether they should seize five, seven, or thirteen states for an independent Black Nation. At the following year’s conference, many argued that an underground Black army would take over towns throughout the United States as part of liberating territory."
Based on what knowledge I have on the New Afrika proposal, I can infer that each plan would be like this:
Based on what knowledge I have on the New Afrika proposal, I can infer that each plan would be like this:
- Five State Plan - Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, and South Carolina
- Seven State Plan - Previous five + Arkansas and Florida
- Thirteen State Plan - Previous seven + Texas, Oklahoma, Tennessee, North Carolina, Virginia, and Kentucky
Today, I learned about Kevin Rudd's proposal to form a condominium of sorts between Australia, Kiribati, Tuvalu and Nauru:
kevinrudd.com
And a planned condominium arrangement between the UK and China over the administration of Hong Kong post-handover:
web.archive.org
Some more here:
en.wikipedia.org
The Complacent Country - Kevin Rudd
‘Without a vision, the people perish’ This is a post-Australia Day reflection on our country’s future that I’ve been working on over the Australian summer and the American winter. They are personal views only. They are intended only to encourage a national conversation about the major challenges...
kevinrudd.com
And a planned condominium arrangement between the UK and China over the administration of Hong Kong post-handover:
How Mrs Thatcher Lost Hong Kong: Ten years ago, fired up by her triumph in the Falklands war, Margaret Thatcher flew to Peking for a last-ditch attempt to keep Hong Kong under British rule - only to meet her match in Deng Xiaoping. Two years later sh
MARGARET THATCHER'S plane landed in Peking at half-past one on the afternoon of 22 September, 1982. It was her second visit to China, the first having been when she was Leader of the Opposition in 1977.
web.archive.org
Some more here:
Condominium (international law) - Wikipedia
Interesting. Rudd specifically says that the Kiribati, Tuvalu, and Nauru should form a condominium "as we have with Norfolk Island", which suggests that they could become external territories of Australia.Today, I learned about Kevin Rudd's proposal to form a condominium of sorts between Australia, Kiribati, Tuvalu and Nauru:
The Complacent Country - Kevin Rudd
‘Without a vision, the people perish’ This is a post-Australia Day reflection on our country’s future that I’ve been working on over the Australian summer and the American winter. They are personal views only. They are intended only to encourage a national conversation about the major challenges...
And a planned condominium arrangement between the UK and China over the administration of Hong Kong post-handover:
How Mrs Thatcher Lost Hong Kong: Ten years ago, fired up by her triumph in the Falklands war, Margaret Thatcher flew to Peking for a last-ditch attempt to keep Hong Kong under British rule - only to meet her match in Deng Xiaoping. Two years later sh
MARGARET THATCHER'S plane landed in Peking at half-past one on the afternoon of 22 September, 1982. It was her second visit to China, the first having been when she was Leader of the Opposition in 1977.
Some more here:
Condominium (international law) - Wikipedia
I saw that too but that was rather confusing since Norfolk Island was not in a "constitutional condominium" with Australia but just an external territory. It would also be odd for a condominium to be formed with one of the co-ruling powers being the state itself that forms the condominium. Honestly it sounds like the status he had in mind was free association like the Cook Islands or Niue has with New Zealand insofar as those two territories have common New Zealand citizenship with New Zealand itself (but immigration restrictions even for New Zealanders who do not originate from those territories) and wherein New Zealand cannot legislate for them and only acts for them in foreign affairs and defence on their own advice. The Norfolk Island model wouldn't be appealing since, despite initially being under separate immigration requirements as mainland Australia, that was all done away with over time between 2012 and 2018.
A 1944 map of the proposed Lander for Germany made by the OSS (precursor to the CIA) from the Truman Library:
www.trumanlibrary.gov
Clipped version showing only the proposed lander (the original included administrative divisions of Greater Germany in 1944):
As can be seen it is rather similar to what pertains in OTL except for differences mainly in the west with a separate Westphalia and Rhine Province, a larger Hesse and a larger Baden-Wurttemberg (or Wurttemberg-Baden in this proposal). In the east, there are differences in the border of Saxony and OTL's Saxony-Anhalt is called Middle Germany
Map of the Major Administrative Divisions of Greater Germany | Harry S. Truman
A revised map titled "Greater Germany: Major Administrative Divisions, July 1, 1944." The map shows the boundary lines of Greater Germany, pre-war 1937 international boundaries, zones of occupation, land, provincial, regional, and district boundaries, and the Oder-Neisse Line. Divisions of...
Clipped version showing only the proposed lander (the original included administrative divisions of Greater Germany in 1944):
As can be seen it is rather similar to what pertains in OTL except for differences mainly in the west with a separate Westphalia and Rhine Province, a larger Hesse and a larger Baden-Wurttemberg (or Wurttemberg-Baden in this proposal). In the east, there are differences in the border of Saxony and OTL's Saxony-Anhalt is called Middle Germany
is poland supposed to get koenigsberg?A 1944 map of the proposed Lander for Germany made by the OSS (precursor to the CIA) from the Truman Library:
Map of the Major Administrative Divisions of Greater Germany | Harry S. Truman
A revised map titled "Greater Germany: Major Administrative Divisions, July 1, 1944." The map shows the boundary lines of Greater Germany, pre-war 1937 international boundaries, zones of occupation, land, provincial, regional, and district boundaries, and the Oder-Neisse Line. Divisions of...
Clipped version showing only the proposed lander (the original included administrative divisions of Greater Germany in 1944):
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As can be seen it is rather similar to what pertains in OTL except for differences mainly in the west with a separate Westphalia and Rhine Province, a larger Hesse and a larger Baden-Wurttemberg (or Wurttemberg-Baden in this proposal). In the east, there are differences in the border of Saxony and OTL's Saxony-Anhalt is called Middle Germany
Well, there's this thread. I'm not really sure what you're getting at here, to be honest.
probably an index as opposed to searching through 200+ pages. it'd probably be good to have something on these maps and such on the wiki, if there isn't one there already.
Not really. The map simply doesn't address anything east of Danzig basically and only shows the administrative divisions of 1944 and before for that region
And here is the map.
Though I'm pretty sure that Armenia is about half Kurdish.
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Also, there's this:
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Here's my WorldA rendition
And here is the map.
Though I'm pretty sure that Armenia is about half Kurdish.
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Also, there's this: