Proposals and War Aims That Didn't Happen Map Thread

Btw do we have something similar concering Charles XII goals in 1700 northern war?
(aside of Lesczynski as king of Poland, Holstein-Gottorp and Mazepas Ukraine, what were Sweden aims? Anything else, beside (possibly) these and, most importantly, survival? :D)
Yeah, sometimes the line between "military genius" and "lunatic" is a rather fine one... :)
 
Don't know if anyone's ever posted this before, but here's an old LiveJournal link to a series of maps posted by a user named Francis Maks, which shows (among others) the proposed and/or "ephemeral" borders of the Lithuanian SSR, Lit-Bel, the Socialist Soviet Republic of Byelorussia, etc, in the immediate post-WWI years. Maps are highly detailed, some of the best I've seen - so long as your Cyrillic comprehension is pretty good ;)
Been meaning to track down the source of these (there are several used in various Wiki entries) for a while, but just now got around to it...
 
Don't know if anyone's ever posted this before, but here's an old LiveJournal link to a series of maps posted by a user named Francis Maks, which shows (among others) the proposed and/or "ephemeral" borders of the Lithuanian SSR, Lit-Bel, the Socialist Soviet Republic of Byelorussia, etc, in the immediate post-WWI years. Maps are highly detailed, some of the best I've seen - so long as your Cyrillic comprehension is pretty good ;)
Been meaning to track down the source of these (there are several used in various Wiki entries) for a while, but just now got around to it...
Nice, I wonder how the Interwar period would have changed if Lit-Bel consolidated. Would it have made it easier for the Soviets to defeat Poland in 1920? Would it have made it harder for Germany to invade the USSR during WWII? Who knows.
 
Nice, I wonder how the Interwar period would have changed if Lit-Bel consolidated. Would it have made it easier for the Soviets to defeat Poland in 1920? Would it have made it harder for Germany to invade the USSR during WWII? Who knows.
Good questions... the hard part would be holding it together though. The memories of Lithuanians and White Ruthenes being united, more or less peacefully, in the Commonwealth and in the Grand Duchy, were getting more and more remote... and apart from a fading historical connection and a devotion to the Red Cause (held by a rather small portion of the population), there really wasn't much to hold Lithuanians and Belarusians together in a Lit-bel...
Have you checked out the other links in the LJ yet? Holy crap the guy has a lot of maps! I was only familiar with a couple from the 1918-19 period, but he's got a LOT more of them...
 
Apparently, there was a proposal from late WW2 to revive the Fiume Free State which existed from 1921 till 1924:

With the surrender of Italy in the Second World War, the "Fiume-Rijeka" issue resurfaced. In 1944 a group of citizens issued the Liburnia Memorandum,[13] in which it was recommended that a confederate state be formed from the three cantons of Fiume, Sušak and Ilirska Bistrica. The islands of Krk (Veglia), Cres (Cherso) and Lošinj (Lussino) would enter the common condominium as well.[14] President Zanella of the government-in-exile still sought the re-establishment of the Free State.[15]

Unfortunately, though, i've found no maps to represent this proposal. But i know it would have been larger than the older 1920's proposal drawn here:
 
Proposals for a border between British Egypt and the Ottoman Empire prior to the 1902 arbitration, which set the border we know today between the Levant proper and the Sinai.


 
Proposals for a border between British Egypt and the Ottoman Empire prior to the 1902 arbitration, which set the border we know today between the Levant proper and the Sinai.


I'm intrigued by that "Jennings Proposal" line... Looks pretty specific in an area that doesn't lend itself very well to specificities :)
I've also seen a pre-1906 border that began at El Arish, but then followed the Wadi al-Arish a bit further into the Sinai... don't remember where I saw it now...
 

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Were there any plans for Britain annex more territory during the Opium Wars? I’ve heard Formosa was proposed
 
Were there any plans for Britain annex more territory during the Opium Wars? I’ve heard Formosa was proposed
The British negotiating guidelines for the treaty at the end of the First Opium War were "the islands of _________", literally an "insert new colony here".
I remember reading that others were proposed by the British negotiator, but I can't remember which ones right now.
The Chinese negotiator offered Hong Kong or Kowloon, but not both, and Hong Kong was chosen.
 
The British negotiating guidelines for the treaty at the end of the First Opium War were "the islands of _________", literally an "insert new colony here".
I remember reading that others were proposed by the British negotiator, but I can't remember which ones right now.
The Chinese negotiator offered Hong Kong or Kowloon, but not both, and Hong Kong was chosen.

Seem to recall Zhoushan being one of them.
 
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