Proposals and War Aims That Didn't Happen Map Thread


US plans for a post-Ottoman Middle East, as seen on Diverse Travel.
....was the former eastern half of the Ottoman Empire gonna be given to ninja clans or something? XD jk, of course--i don't directly recognize most of their symbols but i do already know that the Armenian one, at least, is legit
 
....was the former eastern half of the Ottoman Empire gonna be given to ninja clans or something? XD jk, of course--i don't directly recognize most of their symbols but i do already know that the Armenian one, at least, is legit
So Uzumakis are originally from Armenia? Interesting...
:D
 
Did Diverse Travel have any citations for this? Because the only part of this I've ever heard of before is Mandatory Armenia and the internationalized Straits.
I think it's based on the King-Crane Commission Report.
They say it is based on the King-Crane Commission Report.

Seems like a weird choice to have Syria represented by the SSNP symbol...
Also, were the Americans really planning to freeze the French out completely? Not even a role in Lebanon?
I am also confused by the lack of French mandates, which makes me doubt its complete accuracy.
 
OK, this is more of a general question than anything else, but it could have consequences re: alternate resolutions to a war (aim)...
Does anybody have detailed information on how Mexican governmental authorities, either federal or state, actually defined the western border of Coahuila y Tejas prior to the Mexican War? I've seen numerous interpretations, all vaguely similar, but differing significantly in detail...
It seems like at one point, years ago, I ran across almost like a "Metes and Bounds" description up to the point west of and near to San Antonio (roughly), but it gets less specific once it runs to the southeast corner of Santa Fe de Nuevo Mexico and then northeast to somewhere along the Red River.
Anybody have something more... specific?
I found this, which shows an interpretation from the Mexican perspective mid-1820's, which is good b/c it has a lat/long grid in Plate Carree, but it's still pretty... Subject to interpretation...
Provincias_Internas_de_Oriente.jpg
 
OK, this is more of a general question than anything else, but it could have consequences re: alternate resolutions to a war (aim)...
Does anybody have detailed information on how Mexican governmental authorities, either federal or state, actually defined the western border of Coahuila y Tejas prior to the Mexican War? I've seen numerous interpretations, all vaguely similar, but differing significantly in detail...
It seems like at one point, years ago, I ran across almost like a "Metes and Bounds" description up to the point west of and near to San Antonio (roughly), but it gets less specific once it runs to the southeast corner of Santa Fe de Nuevo Mexico and then northeast to somewhere along the Red River.
Anybody have something more... specific?
I found this, which shows an interpretation from the Mexican perspective mid-1820's, which is good b/c it has a lat/long grid in Plate Carree, but it's still pretty... Subject to interpretation...View attachment 598327
I did an enormous amount of research on this a couple of months ago, and unfortunately I couldn't find anything specific, even trawling through old Spanish-language archives. I'm convinced at this point that they just didn't write any of it down. And this doesn't just apply to Tejas y Coahuila, but all of the northern territories of Mexico whose borders have since been altered or rendered nonexistent by the cession to the United States. That map is an excellent find, though.
 
I did an enormous amount of research on this a couple of months ago, and unfortunately I couldn't find anything specific, even trawling through old Spanish-language archives. I'm convinced at this point that they just didn't write any of it down. And this doesn't just apply to Tejas y Coahuila, but all of the northern territories of Mexico whose borders have since been altered or rendered nonexistent by the cession to the United States. That map is an excellent find, though.
Thanks, it was somewhere on Wikipedia...
Here's another interesting one I found on a Google search, showing roughly the same border along with the old land grants...
tejas.jpg
 

US plans for a post-Ottoman Middle East, as seen on Diverse Travel.
This reminds me of reading on how some of the British wanted the Americans to take on Armenia and the Straits so that they would be obligated to also have a Mandate of sorts over the Turks between them. Also was an idea of having the Americans get a Mandate over Palestine, but the British wanted it for themselves. I really do have too wonder just who make this map and thought the British would give up Kuwait or the Tricia’s States. And why Hejaz would be assumed to not exist. I do hope that website has other ridiculously fun maps as well.
 
I do hope that website has other ridiculously fun maps as well.
There are plenty of others. They seem to alternate between a new travel photo or a map/infographic.
They recently did a map of Locations Proposed for a Jewish State, and there are some others of the British and French colonial Empires as "Contiguous States".
 
In 1868, Brazilian imperial senator Cândido Mendes made a proposal for a new province to be created from areas by the northern frontier of what was then Grão-Pará. This new administrative entity would be named Pinsônia in honor of the Spaniard Vincente Pinzón, who explored the area of Brazil around the same time as Pedro Álvares Cabral in 1500. The project would find some support among Brazil's political elite but was ultimately not voted in.



It would not be until 1943 that Amapá was created as a territory based on a smaller area of northern Pará up to the river Jari. It finally attained statehood in 1988.
 
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