Proposals and War Aims That Didn't Happen Map Thread

I support this Armenia... as a US state, as some wished.
If there isn't any ethnic cleansing stuff, I think it would demographically be something like 30% Turkish, 30% Armenian, 25% Kurdish, 15% other (including Greek and Arab). Makes me wonder how stable it would be as a US state.
 
If there isn't any ethnic cleansing stuff, I think it would demographically be something like 30% Turkish, 30% Armenian, 25% Kurdish, 15% other (including Greek and Arab). Makes me wonder how stable it would be as a US state.
I can imagine most of the Turks leaving. As the Ottoman Empire has just been dismembered, they’d want to rejoin Turkey.
 
Impressive map! So the country would become some sort of independent condomium?
Thanks! And yes it seems so, although perhaps with more autonomy than a condomium (edit: so yes, as you say, an independent condomium).
Moch was very much in favour of pan-European co-operation and wanted Britain to be part of the agreement too.

You can read his works here but my French is not good enough to read them in any detail; I mostly worked on the translation of others.
 
Based on what I found out here.

Please critique me mercilessly!



That's a pretty map

But smh, why does it have to take territory only from French territory (ok occupied at the time but still part of traditional France), at least he could have balanced it with baden and palatinate/saarland
 
Gaddafi’s son and daughter-in-law were arrested in Switzerland for allegedly beating their hostel servants. Gaddafi was so pissed that at the next G8 summit, he publically called for Switzerland to be partitioned among France, Italy, and Germany.
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So here's something I made showing the popularity of various proposed separatist movements and suggestions for new independent states. Also, in the spoiler you can see all the sources I used to make this.

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http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/2014/09/19/one-in-four-americans-want-their-state-to-secede-from-the-u-s-but-why/
https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/b31n8u https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Bougainvillean_independence_referendum
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_New_Caledonian_independence_referendum
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_South_is_My_Country
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Catalan_independence_referendum
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Kurdistan_Region_independence_referendum
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Puerto_Rican_status_referendum
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Scottish_independence_referendum
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Venetian_independence_referendum
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Donbass_status_referendums
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Puerto_Rican_status_referendum
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Curaçao_status_referendum
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Kurdistan_Region_independence_referendum
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_Anjouan_independence_referendum
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_Quebec_referendum
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_United_States_Virgin_Islands_status_referendum
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Tatarstani_sovereignty_referendum
https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/741525 https://shawglobalnews.files.wordpress.com/2019/02/raw_39uy_wester_canada_separatism-01-1.jpg?quality=70&strip=all&strip=all
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yes_California
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_secession_movements
http://polling.reuters.com/#!response/TM350Y14/type/day/dates/20140823-20200115/collapsed/false
http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2010/05/29/in-kashmir-nearly-half-favour-independence/
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/1994198/more-young-hongkongers-back-independence-and-are-less
https://jolygram.com/profile/intrestingmaps/photo/1887184387742996606_4842008405
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Padania#Opinion_polling
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_of_Belgium
 
Speaking as an actual Californian, those numbers are unrealistic, especially the higher ones. The whole "Yes California" thing is basically one dude who moved to the state just a few years before starting his campaign. Most of the "support" is a combination of anger at the 2016 election result and "lol, sure, why not". I suspect the higher numbers for Texas are the same kinda situation.

And no, I'm not "shooting the messenger".
 
All of it and nothing more? That would be pretty ugly border
The Iraqis also wanted the Shatt-al-Arab waterways, which were supposed to be shared by the two nations as per the 1975 Algiers Agreement. Saddam's goals in the Iran-Iraq War were more ideological than territorial: Humiliate the supposed arch-enemy of the Arab world, the Persians, and cement Iraq as the top dog in the Middle East.

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This was how the Shatt-Al-Arab was supposed to be divided between Iraq and Iran according to the Algiers Agreement, which Iraq signed so Iran would stop supporting anti-Saddam Kurdish rebels.
 
The Iraqis also wanted the Shatt-al-Arab waterways, which were supposed to be shared by the two nations as per the 1975 Algiers Agreement. Saddam's goals in the Iran-Iraq War were more ideological than territorial: Humiliate the supposed arch-enemy of the Arab world, the Persians, and cement Iraq as the top dog in the Middle East.
The Shatt-al-Arab forms part of the border between Iraq and Khuzestan so Saddam would get control of it if he got Khuzestan.
 
If there isn't any ethnic cleansing stuff, I think it would demographically be something like 30% Turkish, 30% Armenian, 25% Kurdish, 15% other (including Greek and Arab). Makes me wonder how stable it would be as a US state.
Their delegation to the Paris Peace Conference claimed the state to have the following demographic makeup:

2.5 million Armenians
.5 million other Christian (Assyrian?)
.5 million Turks, Arabs, Persians, Circassians
.3 million Tartars
.2 million Kurds
.3 million other faiths


No, I have no idea where they got their numbers from.
 
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