Projects combine: Realistic CSA victory with quasi-Fascist United Ireland

Alright I'm wondering whether or not I should combine two of my current projects into one whole.

1) A realistic Confederate victory
This is my latest map project, teasers of which are located in the Map Thread. To summarise, CSA wins but collapses into extreme left-wing horror in the early 1900s, combine Fundamentalist Christianity with Maoism, that's about it. USA becomes more active overseas to compensate for the lose of prestige. France and Britain realise that they bet on the wrong horse and do everything they can to patch things up with America, with France pulling out of Mexico much earlier. And France also intervenes in the Six-Weeks War and manages to halt Prussian expansionism, preserving the French monarchy, preventing Prussia from being recognised as a true Great Power by creating Germany and causing then to take a radical sift Right, which leads to Communist Revolution further down the line.

2) Quasi-Fascist United Ireland
My story/scenario/weird dream project. The POD is during the Famine, which is much less harsh then OTL, causing a migration of affected farmers to other parts of Irelabd rather then causing widespread death and emigration. Most farmers move to Ulster, preventing a Protestant hegemony taking hold in the province by balancing out the two populations. Non-secterian Socialism becomes very popular in Belfast and more industrial areas, meanwhile hardcore Unionism is combined to industrialists, landowners and the upper-middle class, with some support from Secterian working men.
Home Rule does not establish a strong link with the Catholic Church as IOTL, and is accepted as generally good across the entire island. Home Rule is therefore achieved in 1912 with little fuss.
Things start to destabilise in 1915 when Trade Unions become increasingly militant in demanding reform, and a new wave of agrarian unrest breaks out in western Ireland (largely due to a very Blanquist James Connolly). Patrick Pearse and Eoin MacNeil team-up to create a new organisation to combat "Marxist thugs" and eventually launch a coup d'état in 1919 a la Mussolini and his March on Rome.

My story doesn't have much background outside of Ireland, however by bringing the map forward a decade or two I could create a pretty comprehensive Universe

Thoughts?
 
Alright I'm wondering whether or not I should combine two of my current projects into one whole.

1) A realistic Confederate victory
This is my latest map project, teasers of which are located in the Map Thread. To summarise, CSA wins but collapses into extreme left-wing horror in the early 1900s, combine Fundamentalist Christianity with Maoism, that's about it. USA becomes more active overseas to compensate for the lose of prestige. France and Britain realise that they bet on the wrong horse and do everything they can to patch things up with America, with France pulling out of Mexico much earlier. And France also intervenes in the Six-Weeks War and manages to halt Prussian expansionism, preserving the French monarchy, preventing Prussia from being recognised as a true Great Power by creating Germany and causing then to take a radical sift Right, which leads to Communist Revolution further down the line.

2) Quasi-Fascist United Ireland
My story/scenario/weird dream project. The POD is during the Famine, which is much less harsh then OTL, causing a migration of affected farmers to other parts of Irelabd rather then causing widespread death and emigration. Most farmers move to Ulster, preventing a Protestant hegemony taking hold in the province by balancing out the two populations. Non-secterian Socialism becomes very popular in Belfast and more industrial areas, meanwhile hardcore Unionism is combined to industrialists, landowners and the upper-middle class, with some support from Secterian working men.
Home Rule does not establish a strong link with the Catholic Church as IOTL, and is accepted as generally good across the entire island. Home Rule is therefore achieved in 1912 with little fuss.
Things start to destabilise in 1915 when Trade Unions become increasingly militant in demanding reform, and a new wave of agrarian unrest breaks out in western Ireland (largely due to a very Blanquist James Connolly). Patrick Pearse and Eoin MacNeil team-up to create a new organisation to combat "Marxist thugs" and eventually launch a coup d'état in 1919 a la Mussolini and his March on Rome.

My story doesn't have much background outside of Ireland, however by bringing the map forward a decade or two I could create a pretty comprehensive Universe

Thoughts?
"A realistic Confederate victory"?
 
I suspect part of the problem is that most folks on here tend to take a dim view of CSA victory TLs. Sort of like Sea Lion lite. BTW, WTF happened to Tejas? Did Juarez send his troops north to take some of it back?
 
I haven't looked at your posts, but here's a general thought.

The British help the Confederate states regain independence, only for Germany and the USA to ally and epically crush the Entente in *WWI.

Britain is forced to allow a united Ireland. The fascism part comes in as a result of how hard it is to keep the Ulster Protestants are under control.
 
Just a thought, maybe if France is more powerful on the continent, their antagonism with the British is greater, and they support the Irish independence movement. Perhaps if there is more Catholics in Ulster, Protestants have less influence, and the France supporting Ireland is a quasi-Fascist constitutional monarchy (Fascist Bourbon France has always fascinated me as a concept). This gives the Irish independence movement a definite 'Catholic Fascist' twist, although you could bring in some Celtic nationalism as an analogue to Italy's Roman memory and Germany's racial doctrine.
 
I suspect part of the problem is that most folks on here tend to take a dim view of CSA victory TLs. Sort of like Sea Lion lite. BTW, WTF happened to Tejas? Did Juarez send his troops north to take some of it back?
Indeed, however like I said I'm trying to keep it realistic. They fail to expand or exert their influence in a meaningful way, attempts by the President to exert any kind of authority are met by rampant hostility from the legislature to any "centralised government", and eventually the poor Whites and Slaves have enough.

Ah, I didn't explain that in the OP. Confederate President forces through a war with Mexico in order to distract from economic fuck-ups, increased Slave militancy and secessionists crisis' in Texas, Virginia, Florida etc.
Troops get beaten back as soon as they cross the Rio Grande, this spurs on the Revolutionaries and the country erupts. Meanwhile Mexican troops, with Union arms, "pacify" Texas and Sequoyah. Selling the latter along with the northern sections of Texas as compensation for the arms.

I haven't looked at your posts, but here's a general thought.

The British help the Confederate states regain independence, only for Germany and the USA to ally and epically crush the Entente in *WWI.

Britain is forced to allow a united Ireland. The fascism part comes in as a result of how hard it is to keep the Ulster Protestants are under control.
That's just TL-191. I don't want to have to change my story just to make it fit with this map, besides which Britain and France refuse to ally with the Confederacy after the war, as they realise it's a completely impotent state and a useless ally.

Meanwhile the world of the maps can fit into the story as it already is, a different Famine could have consequences for the Union due to much fewer Irishmen to fill out the ranks as cannon fooder.
 
I like the way this US looks. But what the hell happened to Georgia and Alabama?
New Afrika, or as its known ITTL, the Socialist Confederal State of Nathaniel Bronson, named after a Black revolutionary hero.
On paper, everyone's equal, but in practice Blacks are basically second-class citizens.

Just a thought, maybe if France is more powerful on the continent, their antagonism with the British is greater, and they support the Irish independence movement. Perhaps if there is more Catholics in Ulster, Protestants have less influence, and the France supporting Ireland is a quasi-Fascist constitutional monarchy (Fascist Bourbon France has always fascinated me as a concept). This gives the Irish independence movement a definite 'Catholic Fascist' twist, although you could bring in some Celtic nationalism as an analogue to Italy's Roman memory and Germany's racial doctrine.
Whilst there will be Celtic revivalism at some point, France and Britain would have good relations. Louis IV married to Victorias younger daughter and having an excellent relationship with his brother-in-law Edward, who has been reigning since the late 1890s ITTL.
 
One of the main Fascist organisation we had in Ireland was The BlueShirt movement which at its height was bigger than it's politcal party, Fine Gael -The United Ireland Party.
 
One of the main Fascist organisation we had in Ireland was The BlueShirt movement which at its height was bigger than it's politcal party, Fine Gael -The United Ireland Party.
Yes I know of them, though I sincerely doubt they were that big, they were pretty much considered the laughing stock of Fascism untill Mussolini invaded Greece.
Hell the Blueshirt volunteers who went to Spain got blown away by Nationalist troops, and after that spent the Civil War doing sweet FA.

They're completely and utterly butterflied, the scenario this Ireland is coming about in is in the OP.
 
Forget Alabama & Georgia

What happened to *Texas*? (two territories and some of the land given back to Mexico?)
 
What happened to *Texas*? (two territories and some of the land given back to Mexico?)
*Sigh*

They try to invade Mexico in the hope a quick victory against the Eternal Dago will help plaster over some of the mnay cracks appearing in the Confederacy. Meanwhile, Mexico is much more stable as Napoleon hauled ass out of there earlier and the US has been fostering good relations as a way of keeping the Rebs out of Latin America. So as soon as the Confederates rag-tag army of state militias, conscripts and very small but professional, if out-dated, army march across the Rio Grande, they are chewed up by a near flawless Mexican defence.

The South finally caves with social, political and economic issues, the Mexicans "liberate" Texas and Seqouyah, and then it and much of northern Texas to the Union as partial repayment of for the arms they were sold.
 
*Sigh*

They try to invade Mexico in the hope a quick victory against the Eternal Dago will help plaster over some of the mnay cracks appearing in the Confederacy. Meanwhile, Mexico is much more stable as Napoleon hauled ass out of there earlier and the US has been fostering good relations as a way of keeping the Rebs out of Latin America. So as soon as the Confederates rag-tag army of state militias, conscripts and very small but professional, if out-dated, army march across the Rio Grande, they are chewed up by a near flawless Mexican defence.

The South finally caves with social, political and economic issues, the Mexicans "liberate" Texas and Seqouyah, and then it and much of northern Texas to the Union as partial repayment of for the arms they were sold.
So the CSA beats the union and then loses to Mexico (and the Union doesn't take advantage of the situation in the CSA to restart the war)???
 
So the CSA beats the union and then loses to Mexico (and the Union doesn't take advantage of the situation in the CSA to restart the war)???
The CSA has been decaying for some 40 years by now, meanwhile Mexico is as dynamic, liberal and industrialised as a European nation. So yes, they lost.
Confederate army is tiny compared to what size it should be anyway, with state guards being the main order for security, it's also very outdated. Meanwhile Mexico has a Union training and Union arms.

Who wants to renannex a region that is almost solely cotton planting, huge unemployment levels, Israel level ethnic tensions and a population that fucking despises your nation?
 
Who wants to renannex a region that is almost solely cotton planting, huge unemployment levels, Israel level ethnic tensions and a population that fucking despises your nation?
Very much this! I never understood why *WWI-era CSA vs. USA wars (which the US would certainly win) often have reannexation involved. It would be a bloody mess.
 
Very much this! I never understood why *WWI-era CSA vs. USA wars (which the US would certainly win) often have reannexation involved. It would be a bloody mess.
Yep, whenever the Confederate government realised how fucked they were with the revolution they sent a request to the US government offering some sort of limited reunification in exchange for them helping out.

The US Presidents personal response was along the lines of "Lol, cool story bro."
 
The CSA has been decaying for some 40 years by now, meanwhile Mexico is as dynamic, liberal and industrialised as a European nation. So yes, they lost.
Confederate army is tiny compared to what size it should be anyway, with state guards being the main order for security, it's also very outdated. Meanwhile Mexico has a Union training and Union arms.

Who wants to renannex a region that is almost solely cotton planting, huge unemployment levels, Israel level ethnic tensions and a population that fucking despises your nation?
So why is the Union willing to take North Texas in payment then?

When is your POD, I'm curious as to how with a Confederate victory West Virginia ends up with the exact same counties (most specifically Morgan Berkeley and Jefferson) as OTL especially considering that Virginia was willing to go to the Supreme Court over the way in which those counties were assigned to the state of West Virginia.

What is the status of the Yucatan. I'm curious how a Mexico that strong, which apparently has conquered Guatemala still doesn't have control of the Yucatan.

And as for why to reannex at least some of it, to keep the White House from being a cannon shot away from a really messed up Foreign Country.

And I have a *really* hard time imagining that a CSA that is *that* messed up with a USA that is apparently not that interested in reconquest not breaking into pieces. Especially after the successful creation of a new state ripped from portions of two others.
 
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