Prohibition continues to present times

Anyway Alcohol Prohibition could continue in the United States to present times

What would be the impact on American crime rates.

What would be the cultural impact
 
I can't see prohibition continuing much longer than in OTL. It was causing too much of broblems and was already very unpopular so continuing of prohibition is pretty impossible. But if continues much longer crime rates becomes even higher and there would be much of corruption.
 
Alcohol would probably be similar to marijuana IOTL in that its use would be widespread despite being technically illegal, and enforcement would be highly inconsistent. You'd probably seem more organized crime to facilitate trafficking, but less violence than in the 20s once the crime networks had worked out a sustainable division of territory.
 
It did, they just changed the substance of persecution.

The less than 1% success rate of enforcement, overcrowded prisons, destroyed communities.

That just with alcohol.
 
Organized crime is a much bigger problem, our murder rate is at least triple what it is today.

Seriously I looked at the numbers Americas murder rate fell after it was abolished during the great depression black markets are inherently violent things.
 
Although the depression and the election of FDR delivered the coup de grace to Prohibition, my view is that it was on the way out anyway. This was disguised in 1928 by Herbert Hoover's landslide victory over Al Smith, which the "drys" dubiously cited as a great vindication. Allan J. Lichtman in Prejudice and the Old Politics: The Presidential Election of 1928 more accurately calls the election a "phony referendum" on Prohibition https://books.google.com/books?id=KbGiJpDk6pwC&pg=PA92 noting that a number of states voted for Hoover that had indicated their disapproval of Prohibition in referendums. (He suggests that Prohibition was used as an excuse by some people who really objected to Smith on religious grounds.)

An example I like to give: In 1928 Montana voted against a state prohibition enforcement law, 54.09-45.91. http://ballotpedia.org/Montana_Adopt_the_Federal_Prohibitio… On the same day, it also voted for Hoover over Smith 58.4-40.5. http://psephos.adam-carr.net/countries/u/usa/pres/1928.txt
 
A more likely scenario than the continuance of Prohibition at the national level is the continuation of state prohibition laws after 1933. IOTL several states maintained Prohibition laws after its repeal at the national level and Mississippi was dry at the state level until 1966, and there are still several dozen dry counties today. A slightly better organized pro-Prohibition movement would probably have been able to keep state dry laws in place in most of the Southern and Plains states until at least the 1960s.
 
What would be the cultural impact

I'm wondering if the rest of the world considers the USA Bizarro Land and treats it as such, or if it's just sort of like OTL's right to bear arms, ie. okay, kind of an odd way to live, but it's not gonna stop anyone from going there on holidays or doing business with American companies.

I could see a reluctance to headquarter big international organizations, eg. the UN, in the USA. because diplomats and other jet-setting professionals might not want to live in a country with no access to a common pleasure. Teetotallers can always abstain, but imbibers aren't gonna wanna hang around the back doors of nightclubs waiting for some guy to show up with a six-pack for their evening revelries.
 
And posting this not for purposes of self-aggrandizement, but just because it dealt with an alternate-history like what is requested in the OP.
 
Seriously I looked at the numbers Americas murder rate fell after it was abolished during the great depression black markets are inherently violent things.
But the long arc of history . . .
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https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2011/06/long-term-trend-in-homicide-rates.html

The decline in murder rates over the centuries, is a very, very positive thing.
 
I'm wondering if the rest of the world considers the USA Bizarro Land and treats it as such, or if it's just sort of like OTL's right to bear arms, ie. okay, kind of an odd way to live, but it's not gonna stop anyone from going there on holidays or doing business with American companies.

I could see a reluctance to headquarter big international organizations, eg. the UN, in the USA. because diplomats and other jet-setting professionals might not want to live in a country with no access to a common pleasure. Teetotallers can always abstain, but imbibers aren't gonna wanna hang around the back doors of nightclubs waiting for some guy to show up with a six-pack for their evening revelries.

I don't think there would be a big impact on organizational/corporate headquarters, since those tend to be driven by economics or political power more than culture, but I imagine the US/UN would be a much less popular posting for diplomats, and tourism would take a hit. On the other hand, you would probably get alot of younger Americans traveling to countries where booze is legal, similar to the way people IOTL go on vacation to Amsterdam.

The cultural attitude towards American on the part of Europeans/Canadians would probably be an exaggeration of the OTL image of Americans as puritanical bible-thumpers. One interesting potential butterfly effect is that you might have more positive attitudes towards the US in Muslim countries, especially if the social ramifications also include more conservative attitudes towards sex/displaying the female body.
 
and for all the 10-year-old kids who very much wish their mom or dad drank less.

I mean, someone ought to speak up in favor of the benefits of Prohibition, right?

(imperfect as those may be! :p )
 
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