Prince Harry captured by Taliban

PipBoy2999

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...agining-Prince-Harrys-capture-by-Taliban.html

The 90-minute film, called The Taking of Prince Harry, will show the Prince being subjected to mock executions and forced to appear in propaganda films.

Featuring contributions from former hostages and intelligence experts, it includes scenes showing the prince, played by actor Sebastian Reid, being held behind enemy lines while negotiations are carried out to free him.
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Interesting. I wonder, would GB be willing to employ the ultimate sanction as a threat to ensure his safety. Would the British government treat the situation as no different from any other hostage, or do the Royals get special treatment?

Personally, all I can think of is SAS with the gloves off and British Tornados armed with nukes scouring the countryside.
 
Guildencrantz

Guildencrantz

PipBoy2999 said:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...agining-Prince-Harrys-capture-by-Taliban.html



Interesting. I wonder, would GB be willing to employ the ultimate sanction as a threat to ensure his safety. Would the British government treat the situation as no different from any other hostage, or do the Royals get special treatment?

Personally, all I can think of is SAS with the gloves off and British Tornados armed with nukes scouring the countryside.
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You scared me for a second. I thought he really was, and that you accidentally posted it here instead of PC>
 

RPW@Cy

PipBoy2999 said:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...agining-Prince-Harrys-capture-by-Taliban.html

Would the British government treat the situation as no different from any other hostage, or do the Royals get special treatment?
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Officially the former, unofficially the latter - although the "special treatment" may not be what you are thinking of. To take the obvious precedent it is now quite well known that when the then Prince of Wales (the future Edward VIII) insisted - much to his credit - on doing a tour of duty in the trenches on the Western Front that his escort was issued with unofficial but very clear instructions to ensure that, in the event that HRH's capture by the enemy looked certain, HRH must die a heroic death resisting this eventuality to the end. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if Harry's escorts in Afghanistan had similar, equally unofficial but clear orders. The Royals can be very... pragmatic at times.

Personally, all I can think of is SAS with the gloves off and British Tornados armed with nukes scouring the countryside.
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The former, almost certainly. The latter, certainly not.
 

Orville_third

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I hope they show it in the US.
Incidentally, I've heard that the SAS semi-routinely practiced with the Royals. In fact one time, Princess Diana had some of her hair burnt, thanks to an errant flash-bang. (This was the only error the SAS made...)
 

PipBoy2999

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What's the significance of Channel 4?

My 2 weeks in London, I don't think I had the TV on for more than 10 minutes the whole time I was there. And that was just to figure out how to work the damn phone for room service.
 

NothingNow

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Thande said:
Bunch of chufftards who think being anti-monarchist is cool and edgy.
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They also do some Neat series though. I really liked their mini series on the First World War. Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares is a BBC America staple as well, IIRC it's got ratings similar to Top Gear.
Of Course, BBC America is basically Channel 4 with Top Gear, Torchwood, Doctor Who and Primeval tacked on.
 
MrP

MrP

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NothingNow said:
They also do some Neat series though. I really liked their mini series on the First World War. Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares is a BBC America staple as well, IIRC it's got ratings similar to Top Gear.
Of Course, BBC America is basically Channel 4 with Top Gear, Torchwood, Doctor Who and Primeval tacked on.
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I rather ran out of things to watch on C4 when they were overrun by reality TV. I still watch Time Team; my family watch Countdown. That's it, I think. Oh, I tell a lie. My brother watches all their morning repeats of Frasier and so on, and I've been watching some of their old stuff on 4oD lately (Hughes' series on the Greeks and Whose Line) and lamenting the decline in watchable telly.
 

NothingNow

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MrP said:
I rather ran out of things to watch on C4 when they were overrun by reality TV. I still watch Time Team; my family watch Countdown. That's it, I think. Oh, I tell a lie. My brother watches all their morning repeats of Frasier and so on, and I've been watching some of their old stuff on 4oD lately (Hughes' series on the Greeks and Whose Line) and lamenting the decline in watchable telly.
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Eh. There's always Japanese-style Gameshows, but yeah, TV has gone down hill since the invention of Reality TV.
 

Frige

Channel 4 also broadcast the drama The Queen, David Starkey series Monarchy, and the movie The Queen forms kind of part of a Channel 4 series too. Being anti-royalist has not been trendy for a very long time, Channel 4 is as royalist as the other channels.
 

Teleology

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Thande said:
Bunch of chufftards who think being anti-monarchist is cool and edgy.
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...cmon. Even in the UK. Even in a Constitutional Monarchy, you can't honestly be using the word anti-monarchist like it were a bad thing.

Aren't people entitled to their opinions in the UK?

Or is calling for a republic illegal so people just make up embarassing faux-docudrama movies about the specific Windsors instead?
 
MrP

MrP

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One of the defining things for me about old-style C4 was that it was explicitly anti-establishment and frequently surreal (I recall back in the '90s they had some peculiar show about a lady in London making her placenta into dinner for some friends). Auntie does her best to upset the Tories and Labour, but she is herself establishment. C4 still has elements of its old self (e.g. the alternative Christmas message*), but I must admit that my disdain for reality TV (and soaps) may cause my eyes to glaze over unfairly.

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Eh. There's always Japanese-style Gameshows, but yeah, TV has gone down hill since the invention of Reality TV.
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Ah, my brother does watch some things Hall commentates on, but I assumed they were on one of those one-trick channels like Dave rather than C4. It's a bit tricky these days, of course, since I didn't have to deal with each channel having half a dozen sub-units when I was a child!

* I have no idea whether it's any cop since I've never watched it or the Queen's.
 
Orry

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RPW@Cy said:
Officially the former, unofficially the latter - although the "special treatment" may not be what you are thinking of. To take the obvious precedent it is now quite well known that when the then Prince of Wales (the future Edward VIII) insisted - much to his credit - on doing a tour of duty in the trenches on the Western Front that his escort was issued with unofficial but very clear instructions to ensure that, in the event that HRH's capture by the enemy looked certain, HRH must die a heroic death resisting this eventuality to the end. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if Harry's escorts in Afghanistan had similar, equally unofficial but clear orders. The Royals can be very... pragmatic at times.
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HRH might get killed - by a sniper or by an IED the idea that he could get captured is ASB territory. He always had an escort of highly trained troops. As far as I know no British or American Army post or unit has ever been overrun by the Taliban. The number of ordinary troops missing or captured can be counted on your fingers - neither army leaves its people behind. When the British Army was last in Afghanistan Kipling wrote...

......

When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
An' go to your Gawd like a soldier.
Go, go, go like a soldier,
Go, go, go like a soldier,
Go, go, go like a soldier,
So-oldier ~of~ the Queen!
 
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