President Pershing possibility?

I'm consideirng making a TL, witht the New York Times supporting Goddard in 1920, leading to American rockets and a lot of other things.
Now, if the POD is in January of 1920, could the butterflies of John Pershing finsing out ans supporting rockets in the army lead to his Presidency?
 
You'll have to explain how Blackjack Pershing supporting Robert Goddard's research leads to a Pershing White House. I would think that if he was going to run, it would be on his war record. After all, he commanded the American Army in France during World War I and was responsible for defending the Mexican-American border against bandits before that.
 
You'll have to explain how Blackjack Pershing supporting Robert Goddard's research leads to a Pershing White House. I would think that if he was going to run, it would be on his war record. After all, he commanded the American Army in France during World War I and was responsible for defending the Mexican-American border against bandits before that.
Well, didn't he already have support from the public? If he finds and integrates a weapon that proves extemrly heklpful to the USA, I think he has a good chance.
 

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Well, didn't he already have support from the public? If he finds and integrates a weapon that proves extemrly heklpful to the USA, I think he has a good chance.
He'd run on his war-record, nobody wins an American election by running as an engineer or scientist, he has to do it as the general
 
He'd run on his war-record, nobody wins an American election by running as an engineer or scientist, he has to do it as the general
Butterflying it in might work than. Thank you, people. Now, how do we get the USA to invade Mexico after the Jan. 1920 POD?
 
You'll have to explain how Blackjack Pershing supporting Robert Goddard's research leads to a Pershing White House. I would think that if he was going to run, it would be on his war record. After all, he commanded the American Army in France during World War I and was responsible for defending the Mexican-American border against bandits before that.

well, "Black"jack, wouldn't get the Democrats to nominate him, so GOP, I don't really see him as a laissez-faire kind of guy, Democrats more likely to go with John W. Davis than James M. Cox in TTL
 
Ok, I'm confused.
the first POD would be Pershing Becoming President in 1920.
the secound POD would be to get Robert Goddard elected President?
 
Ok, I'm confused.
the first POD would be Pershing Becoming President in 1920.
the secound POD would be to get Robert Goddard elected President?

No. The POD is Pershing, finagling support of Robert Goddard's rocket research into a a run at the White House, which doesn't make sense because if he was going to run, it would be on his war record.
 
No. The POD is Pershing, finagling support of Robert Goddard's rocket research into a a run at the White House, which doesn't make sense because if he was going to run, it would be on his war record.
Let me explain.
Adolph Ochs is born three seconds later ITTL, leading to him supporting Robert Goddard's rocketry research in 1920, leading to Pershing implenting rockets in the US Army!
Now, could, not vital to the TL, Pershing be elected as President due to butterflies?
 
....Now, how do we get the USA to invade Mexico after the Jan. 1920 POD?

Why would you want to? To add to the body count of 10 million dead during the Revolution? Punish Villa? Why?

There was a pretty foolish aspect of the Red Scare that claimed Commies were overrunning Mexico. Thankfully the public sobered up.
 
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Well, I'm intendeing to have a second Mexican Civil War break out, much bloodier and requiring American intervention. Maybe the rebels aquire a few rockets from the US military and blow up Tuscon?
 
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John Pershing/Hiram Johnson 467 EV
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thats my thoughts of a Pershing runs in 1920
 
Well, I'm intendeing to have a second Mexican Civil War break out, much bloodier and requiring American intervention. Maybe the rebels aquire a few rockets from the US military and blow up Tuscon?


Good Sweet Christ. :(

Another Mexican revolution coming hard on the heels of the previous one, Pershing beginning a presidential run while he and a big chunk of the AEF are still overseas, Goddard producing V-2s because someone wrote him a check, and it all happening by 1920?

The mind boggles.


Bill
 
Good Sweet Christ. :(

Another Mexican revolution coming hard on the heels of the previous one, Pershing beginning a presidential run while he and a big chunk of the AEF are still overseas, Goddard producing V-2s because someone wrote him a check, and it all happening by 1920?

The mind boggles.


Bill
Not check, he was born three seconds late! And Pershing doesn't have to be POTUS! And the Mexican Civil War could just last longer!
 

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What?!

I do not declare my opposition to Pershing as President by that ejaculation. I am thoroughly confuzzled by the thread's subsequent discussion. Could a kind soul please marshal arguments in sentences and paragraphs for my weary brain? :)
 
I intend to write a TL, okay? In it, Adolph Ochs is born three seconds later than OTL. He then supports Goddard instead of downing him in 1920. The US military then takes notice and begins to work on rockets.
Now, my question is, how could the USA annex parts of Mexico and create a puppet state without going back to far for the POD?
 

MrP

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I intend to write a TL, okay? In it, Adolph Ochs is born three seconds later than OTL. He then supports Goddard instead of downing him in 1920. The US military then takes notice and begins to work on rockets.
Now, my question is, how could the USA annex parts of Mexico and create a puppet state without going back to far for the POD?

I am not asking for a TL, but an explanation which is lucid. I am having trouble following the thread in this, er, thread.
 
Catboy,
Why not a peaceful annexationist movement? Mexico gets sent down the shitter economically, politically, socially, and America comes in bailing them out. Mexican annexationist movements become much more popular, leading to a union between the two countries in the late 30's ala Anschluss?
 
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