General Mung Beans
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Could Pat Buchanan been elected President in 1996 and what would his administration look like?
i'd say no 99.9999999999 % of the time, however the one in billion shot is to be found here https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=87524 we forget the Bill was standing on quicksand in 96 and the nation was very conservative
true, but even Gingrich and Bush's America isn't going to elect someone with Buchanan's mouth.
i'd say no 99.9999999999 % of the time, however the one in billion shot is to be found here https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=87524 we forget the Bill was standing on quicksand in 96 and the nation was very conservative
There's a difference between conservative and nutjob (although I admit it's not a big one). Buchanan is a nutjob.
Southerners would vote Buchanan.
Southerners would vote Buchanan.
Could Pat Buchanan been elected President in 1996
Formidable border fence constructed, major cutbacks in legal immigration, trade protectionism, no interventions in Bosnia or Kosovo. If elected in 1992, would have appointd conservatives to the Supreme Court instead of Ginsberg and Breyer, so Roe V. Wade might have been repealed by now.and what would his administration look like?
Buchanan is not a nutjob. Being protectionist, anti-immigration, pro-life and anti-Isreali is not nutjob.
Might be incorrect, but not crazy.
What about him stikes you as crazy?
Well, first of all he doesn't see any difference in legal and illegal immigration, and there's a HUGE difference. While you can bash illegal immigration many times if you want, no nation could ever grow without legal immigration, and the US is a nation of immigrants, not even the conservatives denies that.
Secondly his hatred for Israel is just mad. He call everything he doesn't like Sionist, and his remarks about Hitler and Nazism are just outright mad.
Depends how you look at it. If you're talking about the demographic impact on the population/culture then the differance is un-important.
And plenty of countries grow without immigration, if you want population growth, which is not the only sane opinion.
Disagree. From what I have seen he seems very bitter about the cost of supporting Isreali for the US, but that does not translate to hatred or maddness. Hell, I have seen similar denoucations of Isreal from Jimmy Carter and the UN and liberals on this board
Do you consider them mad?
Hitler? Which remarks?
He has several times remarked that a Europe dominated by Hitler would not have presented a threat to the US. He also blame Roosevelt for having pushed Japan into a war with US. Is it just me or is that complete lunacy??
IN 2002 he called the population growth of Asians, Blacks and Latin Americans in the US for a threat against civilization. That's such a sane statement.
Well, first of all he doesn't see any difference in legal and illegal immigration, and there's a HUGE difference. While you can bash illegal immigration many times if you want, no nation could ever grow without legal immigration, and the US is a nation of immigrants, not even the conservatives denies that.
More plausible that he could have been elected in 1992.
If Bush I dropped out in 1992, Buchanan would have been best positioned to win the GOP nomination, whereas if Dole dropped out in 1996, most of his support would probably have gone to Alexander. And Clinton was much more beatable in 1992 than 1996.
Formidable border fence constructed, major cutbacks in legal immigration, trade protectionism, no interventions in Bosnia or Kosovo. If elected in 1992, would have appointd conservatives to the Supreme Court instead of Ginsberg and Breyer, so Roe V. Wade might have been repealed by now.
There's a difference between conservative and nutjob (although I admit it's not a big one). Buchanan is a nutjob.
Why would Bush drop out in '92? He was the incumbent President then.
Disagree. From what I have seen he seems very bitter about the cost of supporting Isreali for the US, but that does not translate to hatred or maddness. Hell, I have seen similar denoucations of Isreal from Jimmy Carter and the UN and liberals on this board