Discussion in 'Alternate History Books and Media' started by Tayya, Apr 9, 2012.
Everyone in this timeline is gonna die, and it is squarely because I played Wallace and gave him literally just enough edge to deadlock the College. North Carolina is within 5k votes, and South Carolina is within 10k. Could have had Florida too, but I was focused on locking down the Carolinas when I realized I actually had a shot at breaking the EC.
In this scenario I wonder what would happen.
1. Would Johnson or Romney be the first to cave and give up on civil rights?
2. Would both of them hold out until the Dixiecrats cave and reluctantly support Johnson?
3. Would the House deadlock and Johnson's VP become Acting President for a while?
4. Would Johnson and Romney form a "grand coalition" of sorts to shut out the Dixiecrats?
An enjoyable but ultimately frustrating campaign as Christie/Rubio in 2012 - lost Colorado and Wisconsin by a few thousand votes.
I think that LBJ gets the nod since I suspect that the House is still controlled by the Democrats in 1968 from the 1964 landslide, even with the Southern states voting for Wallace.
Played a few ones as Perot 1992, David Duke as won Iowa,New Hampshire and Tennesse...
Weird (and scary). Did he end up getting the nomination?
2005 with Vincemania. Looking at the Canterbury result for some reason.
Managed to oust David Davis, Liam Fox and Oliver Letwin. May held on by around 1,000 in Maidenhead, Howard's majority was less than 5,000 in Folkstone and Hythe. Cameron and Osborne both easily held their seats so the immediate future of the Conservative Party might have turned out roughly the same, albeit with a bigger mountain to climb in 2010. Howard would surely have quit sooner though, and Brown might have taken over within months (in fear that Lib Dem progress would continue).
Decided to fiddle with President Forever.
Originally, Saparmurat Niyazov was leading in the polls, but Niyazov losing his home state to Zhirinovsky and Gaidar's campaign team leaking presumably highly scandalous information dealt heavy blows to Niyazov's run. Oh yeah, and he ran out of campaign funds.
Because somehow the Soviet Union adopted the American electoral college, this led to Niyazov winning the popular vote by a 4% margin while losing the electoral vote. The good news is that a psychopathic, egomaniacal hardliner is not the President of the Soviet Union, but the bad news is that a psychopathic, egomaniacal expansionist is.
In this alternate timeline, however, the CPSU was presumably shut down and integrated into the Conservative Party of the Soviet Union. Although Khakamada's final attack ad on Kharitonov backfired, it didn't prevent Khakamada from virtually trashing Kharitonov. As such, Kharitonov only won Georgia, Moldova, Karelia, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan, and Irina's perfomance was so great that Irina Khakamada was hailed by future historians as "The Great".
Spoiler: OH DEAR.
Mintimer Shaimiev (United Russia): 27%, 64 EV
def. Sergei Mitrokhin (Yabloko): 32%, 163 EV; Gennadiy Zyuganov (Communist): 30%, 108 EV; Oleg Malyshkin (LDPR): 9%, 0 EV
(For recap, Shaimiev won Murmansk, Archangelsk, Kirov, Krasnoyarsk, Mordovia, Penza, Sverdlovsk, Veliky Novgorod, Tyumen, Chelyabinsk, Novosibirsk, Lipetsk and Khanty-Mansiysk).
Gravel 08: The Old White Guy Is Suddenly Cool
The 2008 Democratic Primary was the most bitter is living memory with all candidates bar Dennis Kucinich winning delegates. The surprise candidate was Mike Gravel a relic of a by gone age and having not held elected office since 1980. It looked likely he would fade into obscurity until a late surge in the polls in Iowa linked to his viral social media. Indeed he managed to push to a solid third place in Iowa with another dark candidate Chris Dodds winning. Yet in Nevada he got his first victory, yet Gravel's success lay in the diverse field and he was able to take second places in big delegate rich states likes California and New York and series of clear debate wins which were spread online. On the eve of the convention only Kucinich,Dodds and Richardson had dropped out which left Clinton,Obama,Edwards,Biden and Gravel himself. Roughly equal in delegates Obama led but Dodds and Richardsons Delegates were promised to Gravel ,the turning point was Gravel's old senatorial colleague Biden dropping out and endorsing him during the convention. Edwards railed to Obama and Clinton became the kingmaker and she crowned the 78 year old Gravel as the partys nominee. Gravel selected Obama has his VP in an act of Party unity. The GOP was also split with the party equally divided between the McCain and Romney and the kingmaker in the form of Mike Huckabee made McCain the 2008 Republican nominee, who picked Fred Thompson as his nominee. It was certainly a clash of ideas between the old hawk and the old liberal and the muted result is often said to be because of Gravel being the most Liberal nominee in modern memory. Yet the Democrats won and were unlucky not to do more with likes of Virginia escaping by only thousand votes. At 78 Mike Gravel became the oldest president ever and the future was in his and his partys hands.
After seeing this wikibox, I did this.
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