PRC with Western Aerospace and Military Technology?

Delta Force

Banned
During the 1980s the PRC was in talks with several Western firms regarding various aerospace and military projects, but since 1989 the PRC has had an embargo placed against it due to Tienanmen Square. Despite the historically poor relations between the PRC and Soviet Union, this has meant that the PRC has gone on to become a major purchaser of Russian and Ukrainian aerospace and military equipment, technology, and consulting since the end of the Cold War. If Tienanmen Square had not happened, might the PRC have gone on to make more extensive use of Western technology for developing its aerospace and military industries?
 

nastle

Banned
During the 1980s the PRC was in talks with several Western firms regarding various aerospace and military projects, but since 1989 the PRC has had an embargo placed against it due to Tienanmen Square. Despite the historically poor relations between the PRC and Soviet Union, this has meant that the PRC has gone on to become a major purchaser of Russian and Ukrainian aerospace and military equipment, technology, and consulting since the end of the Cold War. If Tienanmen Square had not happened, might the PRC have gone on to make more extensive use of Western technology for developing its aerospace and military industries?
WIll the warming of relations between NATO and USSR put an end to the desire to sell china advanced technology ?
 

Delta Force

Banned
WIll the warming of relations between NATO and USSR put an end to the desire to sell china advanced technology ?

Possibly, but the PRC is a large potential market. Selling advanced equipment can also be a way of influencing their actions, since they require complicated replacement parts and service to continue functioning. For example, even though the PRC has made illegal copies of the Su-27, Sukhoi and Saturn expect to eventually do a major sale to get the aircraft and engines working properly.
 
During the 1980s the PRC was in talks with several Western firms regarding various aerospace and military projects, but since 1989 the PRC has had an embargo placed against it due to Tienanmen Square. Despite the historically poor relations between the PRC and Soviet Union, this has meant that the PRC has gone on to become a major purchaser of Russian and Ukrainian aerospace and military equipment, technology, and consulting since the end of the Cold War. If Tienanmen Square had not happened, might the PRC have gone on to make more extensive use of Western technology for developing its aerospace and military industries?

I think their acquisition of Russian technologies had more to do with the collapse of the Soviet Union and the corresponding collapse in Russian defense spending. It meant that you could pick up rather advanced technology on the cheap, which was more attractive for China (which didn't have that technology) than for the West (which had better technology) or for most other countries (which couldn't afford it anyways). I suspect that even if the Chinese do ink those deals they're going to try to wriggle out of them once the Soviets fall to bits.
 
During the 1980s the PRC was in talks with several Western firms regarding various aerospace and military projects, but since 1989 the PRC has had an embargo placed against it due to Tienanmen Square. Despite the historically poor relations between the PRC and Soviet Union, this has meant that the PRC has gone on to become a major purchaser of Russian and Ukrainian aerospace and military equipment, technology, and consulting since the end of the Cold War. If Tienanmen Square had not happened, might the PRC have gone on to make more extensive use of Western technology for developing its aerospace and military industries?

I think some in the west were cagey about giving China too much access well before Tiananmen square. I'm hazy on the specifics but Boeing were apparently looking into full licence production there in the 70's or 80's before someone thought it might not be a great idea from a technology sharing point of view.
 

Anderman

Donor
The chinese had access to the MD-82 technology in the 1990s

The MD-82 was assembled under license in Shanghai by the Shanghai Aviation Industrial Corporation (SAIC) beginning in November 1986; the sub-assemblies were delivered by McDonnell Douglas in kit form.[3] China had begun design on a cargo version, designated Y-13, but the project was subsequently cancelled with the conclusion of the licensed assembly of the MD-82 and MD-90 in China.[20][21]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_MD-80#MD-82
 
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