POTUS Walter Mondale

What if Walter Mondale had been elected in 1984? What wouldhe do as President What would be the ffects?

First let's start with how Mondale wins. First PoD is Carter doesn't appoint Volcker and the Fed doesn't tackle inflation like IOTL. Due to there still being malaise and crisis Carter loses in 1980 but him and the Democrats do about 1.5% better swinging a few, probably unimportant, congressional races. Reagan still passes tax cuts and survives assassination but the stagflation continues, though it stops about 1985 and there is a sluggish recovery. This mwabs Reagan's popularity is much lower and Mondale has a fighting chance. Of course being Walter Mondale he'd screw that up. The primaries go similar to IOTL in that Mondale wins and Hart is secons though there might be some other candidates and different results. So at the convention Mondale picks Hart instead of Ferraro, a pick that avoids her distractions and lessens Mondale's weaknesses. Hart also persiades him not to promise a tax increase.Then the contest is close, with Reagan unpopular but Mondale distrusted. However in the debates Reagan stuffs up, coming off as senile in the second debate as in the first. The race is close but Mondale gains momentum and Reagan is dogged by health questions. Ultimately Mondale wins a close election. Is that enough to get him to win or is even more needed?
How would a Mondale presidency go and would America be more leftwing? What if?
 
If Carter never appointed Volcker or if Reagan fired him, the recession will continue. Also, it's unlikely Hart would be Mondale's running mate as he wanted a minority as it.

A Mondale presidency would be unpopular. His very own party would probably refuse to vote for his left-wing bills. In '86, I'd expect a Republican Revolution 6 years early. Really, Mondale was a person who went against the conservative tide and would probably be beaten resoundingly in '88, maybe even in the primaries.
 
Agreed: Mondale would have been less popular than Carter (no mean feat) and nearly as divisive as Obama (again, no mean feat). But it's bordering on ASB to get him elected in the first place.
 
I think he has a chance but Reagan would have to stuff up pretty badly and he'd have to improve. What other PoDs might be needed asides from my scenario?
 
Agreed: Mondale would have been less popular than Carter (no mean feat) and nearly as divisive as Obama (again, no mean feat). But it's bordering on ASB to get him elected in the first place.

You're right about him being less popular than Carter, but I think he'd be even more divisive than Obama. I'd expect the moderate wing of the Democrats to be enraged at his victory; he'd turn nearly the whole nation against him.
 
Wasn't the Minnesotan Mondale chosen as Veep to offer geographical and ideological balance to the ticket with the southern and (presumably) more conservative Jimmy Carter?

Not to mention some Democrats thought they owed something to the beloved Hubert Humphrey (Mondale's mentor).
 
Wasn't the Minnesotan Mondale chosen as Veep to offer geographical and ideological balance to the ticket with the southern and (presumably) more conservative Jimmy Carter?

Not to mention some Democrats thought they owed something to the beloved Hubert Humphrey (Mondale's mentor).

Think do and he was pretty liberal, running in 1984 as a New Deal liberal supporting the ERA and a nuclear freeze. However I'm still looking for some way to have him beat Reagan in 1984, as in 1982 the economy was in the toilet and Reagan's approval rating got to 35% before doubling by election day 1984, mainly because of the economic recovery. If the early 1980s recession continues and unemployment is high or Volcker is never appointed so stagflation doesn't fade until after the election ten the race could be close and if there are a few other PoDs such as Reagan having anotger awful debate and his health bring questioned Mondale could win. Any ideas on how to get Mondale to win and the effects?
 
I think, from what I recall of '84, the electorate would have viewed Mondale as not-quite-McGovern; i.e., too far from the mainstream to take in anything but small doses. Reagan would have been re-elected in all but the most dire circumstances, although admittedly if the economy had been worse, he would have gotten votes because he wasn't Mondale / McGovern Lite.
 
You would've had to have hand waved away things like the U.S. invasion of Grenada and U.S. military operations against Libya and elsewhere.
 
I think, from what I recall of '84, the electorate would have viewed Mondale as not-quite-McGovern; i.e., too far from the mainstream to take in anything but small doses. Reagan would have been re-elected in all but the most dire circumstances, although admittedly if the economy had been worse, he would have gotten votes because he wasn't Mondale / McGovern Lite.

Ok but what about if the economy is still suffering full-on stagflation/recession, Mondale comes off as slightly less extreme by not promising the tax increase, Hart instead of Ferraro is his VP and Reagan appears senile in all the debates rather than just the first? Then, in my scenario, Mondale could have a chance, a but like John Kerry 2004, and he could win.
 
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