What places in time and space would be opportune for the existence of a city-state? It can either be a place that was underdeveloped IOTL, or was actually a city that was part of a larger entity and might've done better on its own.
New York City could have wound up as a city state, with a complete collapse of the USA in the 1860s, or more likely in a Hong Kong type situation if the Americans are less successful in the war of independence and the British hold on to New York.
I'd like to find a way to get city states after the industrial revolution.
There are a few. Singapore is the one obvious case. However, the four Gulf emirates are effectively city states (Bahrein most obviously, but also no one in Kuwait lives outside of Kuwait city), but as oil cities people don't think of them that way. Belgium and the Netherlands are really federations of city states. You can add Panama and Hong Kong. I am excluding remote island sovereignties with low populations. But I would like to find a POD that makes them more common.
New York City could have wound up as a city state, with a complete collapse of the USA in the 1860s, or more likely in a Hong Kong type situation if the Americans are less successful in the war of independence and the British hold on to New York.
...not sure what confuses me more here.- Ancient Indian city-states manages to thrive and without the IOTL development of Hinduism (and its political influence), you could see the maintain of urban mahajanapada, at least on a sub-political level.
Keep in mind that the initial impetus for the emergence of the famous Italian city states is that the Byzantines in the early Middle Ages were able and willing to hold coastal cities against the Lombards and the Franks
Hinduism certainly existed in the latter part of mahajanapadas era, and probably wouldn't have existed as such without mahajanapadas existence in first place....not sure what confuses me more here.
The fact that Hinduism didn't exist at this time and it was the Brahminical system which dominated most of India (and the Mahajanapada by doing so)...
The point being?Or the fact that Brahmanist traditions already existed at this time.
When I say Hinduism, I mean Hinduism.Or why aborting Hinduism (or Brahmanism if you meant that) would maintain the Mahajanapada in the long term?
Hamburg and Bremen are currently city states in the BRD.
No. First problem- NY at that time was just Manhattan and didn't include what are now the other boroughs. Manhattan is isolated and doesn't develop. The USA surrounding it isnt going to want to trade or allow NYC to be a nation that has the American trade come through it first. Let's say somehow you include the other boroughs some how (hard when Queens at this time included Nassau County and the Bronx didn't exist at all even as a county)New York City could have wound up as a city state, with a complete collapse of the USA in the 1860s, or more likely in a Hong Kong type situation if the Americans are less successful in the war of independence and the British hold on to New York.
In both scenarios you talk about, Revolutionary War and 1860s- NY was Manhattan only. Brooklyn was a separate city, Flatbush was a separate town, Long Island Village was an actual village, etc. The five boroughs of today didn't join together until 1898. You aren't talking about NY the city, you are talking about the greater area around Manhattan that IOTL eventually became the city of NY. But at the times you are talking about NY is Manhattan (and southern half of the Bronx in your 1860s era). Please understand proper NY history."NY at that time was just Manhattan and didn't include what are now the other boroughs"
During the American War of Independence, the British controlled more than Manhattan. They had outposts in New Jersey, their fleet operated around Staten Island which would have been impossible if the Americans controlled, and they had no problem in provisioning their forces from farms on Long Island. If they had been able to hold on to New York at the Peace of Paris, it would have been what is now the five boroughs, except for maybe the Bronx, plus what is now Hudson County in New Jersey and possibly the rest of Long Island as well.
The other scenario posited is that the United States just falls apart after a particularly bad American Civil War. This is less likely, and if this happens, all bets are off. If New York City declares independence, it would have no problem raising a militia that would take over the surrounding areas. Or the state government might secede, then the upstate counties succeed from the state.