There is nothing inherent in being Arab, Iranian, or Muslim that requires the same degree of animus towards the Jews that Nazism does. Those states use anti-Jewish hatred to bolster their regimes, whereas the Nazis use their regime to bolster anti-Jewish hatred.
my speculation has always been around Subhas Chandra Bose and Azad Hind, as he went first to USSR and rumored near his end to be planning a return there, the Soviets could back him against the British in India?
Trotskyite foreign policy Reds doing better in China, Republicans win Spanish Civil War and then go for Portugal, Russia invades Poland first then goes for Finland ...
It go's deeper than that Nazism is incompatible with such a alliance
Actually, contray to propaganda on both sides neither the U.S. nor any of the eastern Block states were entirely dedicated to killing every single living individual of their opponents.
I'll tap out then, unclear how the Axis are in Eastern Europe without a declaration of war by Allied side
To be clear, I agree with you all, but I am now morbidly curious as to how a surviving Nazi Germany (perhaps in a scenario where the putative Soviet-Axis alliance had come to fruition, or at least Operation Barbarossa had never occurred) would interact with an independent Israel run by Lehi.
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Classic Elser Plot succeeds scenario then. Goering takes over, and there's peace in the West by the middle of 1940. The peace deal prevents the Reich from gobbling up all of the General Government areas and the "Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia", which, despite independence, remain in the German orbit. Attempted Communist takeovers of one or both, and/or the Winter War, and/or Soviet designs on Romania could be the trigger for a war with the Third Reich and the Allies against the USSR. There is a timeline on this board, which I believe remains unfinished, that does something like this.
The scenario presumes the Soviets beat the Axis to being at war with the West.
The Nazis only did this with groups that they felt didn't require immediate extermination. The Nazis felt the Italians and the French were inferior races but felt they were sufficiently high enough in their bullshit racial hierarchy to tolerate. The Jews, on the other hand, were the existential enemy of the German people who had to be exterminated no matter the cost. Assisting the Jews in building a state would be completely contradictory to everything the Nazi Party stood for.
These deportation plans were just a way to get the Jews out of Europe quickly. The Nazis had no intention of allowing the Jews deported there to survive long term, it was just a way to put the concentration camps in another location.
That's a false equivalency. The ideological compromises of the Cold War or the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact are in no way comparable to what is being proposed.
Exactly. Also notice that while they had whermacht and waffen ss units from the various occupied countries they never once thaught of having one made up of jews. Also as late as 1945 when they needed every single man to fight they still wasted men as well as resources on the extermination of the jews. The "jewish problem" was one of the main pillars of their twisted idealogy there simply was no compromise with them.
True, although there was one exception with the Karaites, whose leaders managed to convince the Nazis that their sect of Judaism was in fact racially Turkish, basing their argument on the theory of a Khazar origin. I agree though that the Nazis would not consent to any sort of alliance between them and any Jewish state that might form in Palestine.
How does Goering taking over make the Allies predisposed to cut a deal with Germany? Anything less than a full withdrawal from Poland and Czechoslovakia would have been a unacceptable to the Allied governments.
