Oftentimes threads will ask how World War II would have gone differently if a particular country had joined the Axis rather than staying neutral or joining the Allies. However, at the end of the day, no plausible extra Axis member would have been likely to change the course of the war so decisively that the Axis wins, particularly if the USA still joins the Allies (the only possible exception to this last statement is the Soviet Union, which is another can of worms entirely). So, given that Germany, Italy and Japan all lost a substantial amount of territory in the aftermath of World War II, what are similar territorial losses that could have happened for any other potential Axis members? Below is a list of some candidates I've seen mentioned on this forum (some admittedly far more likely than others).
Spain: Loss of all overseas colonies? Spanish Morocco (including Ceuta and Melilla) goes to France? Independence for the Basques and/or Catalonia? Could Spain lose any European territory to France or maybe Portugal, if the latter country doesn't join the Axis?
Portugal: Can't think of any European losses that could be imposed on it, but they could certainly lose their overseas empire. For instance, Goa would go to British India, and thus independent India within a few years of the war. I guess there could be some question as to what happens to their big colonies, like Angola and Mozambique. They'd probably be occupied by the British and the South Africans and then go through a period of UN trusteeship before independence, but might South Africa have any interest in continuing to rule those countries as they did present-day Namibia after Germany lost the territory in WWI?
Turkey: How far could the Allies go with territorial losses on an Axis Turkey, given the genocide, ethnic cleansing and population exchanges twenty years before the war? Despite a dearth of Greeks living there anymore, would the Allies give Turkish Thrace to that country? Maybe even Smyrna and its environs as well? Maybe Stalin would insist on Wilsonian borders for Soviet Armenia? Would Istanbul go the USSR, or at least become an independent city? What other gains could the Soviets potentially make? I imagine the Kurds would get an independent state after the war, but would French Syria also make gains at Turkey's expense as well?
Argentina: (Maybe not a full Axis member, but I've seen it suggested that Argentina could essentially become an Axis cobelligerent by trying to invade the Falklands in 1941 - and that this would certainly be a bad move for the country.) What losses could be inflicted on Argentina? Lands lost to Chile? Uruguay? Maybe some islands or whatnot to Britain?
Anyway, are there any other remotely plausible extra Axis states you can think of in Europe, the Middle East, Latin America, or elsewhere? If so, what are likely territorial losses for them after WWII?
Spain: Loss of all overseas colonies? Spanish Morocco (including Ceuta and Melilla) goes to France? Independence for the Basques and/or Catalonia? Could Spain lose any European territory to France or maybe Portugal, if the latter country doesn't join the Axis?
Portugal: Can't think of any European losses that could be imposed on it, but they could certainly lose their overseas empire. For instance, Goa would go to British India, and thus independent India within a few years of the war. I guess there could be some question as to what happens to their big colonies, like Angola and Mozambique. They'd probably be occupied by the British and the South Africans and then go through a period of UN trusteeship before independence, but might South Africa have any interest in continuing to rule those countries as they did present-day Namibia after Germany lost the territory in WWI?
Turkey: How far could the Allies go with territorial losses on an Axis Turkey, given the genocide, ethnic cleansing and population exchanges twenty years before the war? Despite a dearth of Greeks living there anymore, would the Allies give Turkish Thrace to that country? Maybe even Smyrna and its environs as well? Maybe Stalin would insist on Wilsonian borders for Soviet Armenia? Would Istanbul go the USSR, or at least become an independent city? What other gains could the Soviets potentially make? I imagine the Kurds would get an independent state after the war, but would French Syria also make gains at Turkey's expense as well?
Argentina: (Maybe not a full Axis member, but I've seen it suggested that Argentina could essentially become an Axis cobelligerent by trying to invade the Falklands in 1941 - and that this would certainly be a bad move for the country.) What losses could be inflicted on Argentina? Lands lost to Chile? Uruguay? Maybe some islands or whatnot to Britain?
Anyway, are there any other remotely plausible extra Axis states you can think of in Europe, the Middle East, Latin America, or elsewhere? If so, what are likely territorial losses for them after WWII?