Post WWII Polish borders WI

Is it Possible for Poland to have this borders post world war II
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Poland gets Upper Silesia, remaining parts of Greater Poland and Kuyavia that remained in Germany after the treaty of versailles, Pomeralia but Poland completely loses all the territories of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and Galicia-Volhynia.

Lithuania includes Belarus and East Prussia.

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Nope. The soviets decided to have the eastern part and the Western part was definitly not for Germany anymore.
 
If Germans hadn't tried to kill any Jews...

If the soviets thought a larger East Germany would combat the strong West Germany...

If the Soviets weren't so good at mass relocation of people. There used to be Germans in Silesia and Pomerania before 1945...
 
If Germans hadn't tried to kill any Jews...

If the soviets thought a larger East Germany would combat the strong West Germany...

If the Soviets weren't so good at mass relocation of people. There used to be Germans in Silesia and Pomerania before 1945...

I think your second point is probably the most useful here. If the leaders of the Allies had looked ahead and seen that their spheres of influence would become separate countries later, then it may have made good sense to have a larger East Germany going forward.

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Grey Wolf
 
No, 1920-1's invasion of the USSR was sooner or later going to thoroughly bite Poland in the ass, and no matter which Soviet leader would rule the USSR this will be so. And Poland's abilities to counter this by claiming its right to invade the USSR in 1920-1 was justified are zilch in the OTL situation. As far as the western borders, that requires the USSR to adopt a different view of occupying Germany, and why Stalin does that is a good question, but only Stalin decides such things in a 1945-53 USSR.
 
Yes, of course (assuming it's a rough estimation, not the exact line). The western border is roughly what the Poles could count on based on any reasonable or semi-reasonable claims. East Prussia meeting its OTL fate while Lower Silesia and Pommerania don't is plausible as it was an exclave. Finally Ukrainians claimed today's southeast Poland (some of it had a Ukrainian / East Slavic* majority before 1947), and Soviet leaders sometimes threatened Poles they would annex it.
 

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I think your second point is probably the most useful here. If the leaders of the Allies had looked ahead and seen that their spheres of influence would become separate countries later, then it may have made good sense to have a larger East Germany going forward.

Best Regards
Grey Wolf

But lets not overlook that in 1945 East Germany wasn't yet planned - the idea was still that the four powers would administer all of it together rather than their various parts apart. So if the "Soviet occupation zone" was to include basicly 1772 borders minus Upper Silesia and East Prussia, then that would mean (by 1945 mentality and plans) that "future Germany" would lose almost nothing - get a slap on the wrists for starting the World War 2. This would be a big no for all powers involved.
 
Owkay. But its a modern map as i see an independent Montenegro.

So why make Lithuania disappear if you just want to talk about Poland's borders?

btw, the Netherlands looks awful on that map.
 
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