Post-WW2 Battleships and other Big-gun ships

This thread has two purposes;

A) An AHC type challenge to make battleships and/or big-gun ships major surface combatants that are built and laid down post-ww2. The later they matter and the bigger they are, the better.

B) A place for designs of post-ww2 battleships to be posted and discussed, doctrinally possible or not after the lessons of the second world war.

A few battleships were commissioned post-WW2, but none were laid down after it, as the aircraft carrier proved that it was a more effective warship, and because in the new world situation, the soviets weren't really planning to contest the high seas.
 
How about a non-naval WW2, where the rise of the carrier is delayed.
In my EDC there's a CP victory in WW1 and war breaks out again in 1940 pitting most nations of Europe (France, Germany, Northern Italy, Spain, Holland, the Danubian Confederation et cetera) against the Slavic Hordes of the New Russian Empire. A mainly ground/aerial war across Europe with limited naval actions (mainly against Russian subs and commerce raiders).
You had EuroFed fielding nuclear-powered battleships by 1955, operating out of the EuroNav base at Cam Ranh Bay to deter Japanese aggression in the Pacific. And of course operating against Earth Reptile hibernation bases and Mysterious Islands...
 
You probably would need a WWI POD if not earlier

Change circumstances so that the WNT limit is 45,000 tons or more rather than 35,000 tons, and that fewer obsolete vessels are retained

Have say Argentina and Chile go at each other over the Beagle Channel in the 20's, and from that experience everyone starts bolting on AA to any bit of free deck space early

Have some brilliant young men who died in WWI OTL survive, and push forward electronics a bit so that Radar is standard by 1938, and the proximity fuse by 1941

And as a big one have the US decide on using aircraft carriers defensively rather than offensively, cut down the number of bombers for extra fighters for a stronger CAP, have the US win WWII with this doctrine, and it will leave the battleships and carrier needed in equal amounts
 

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A few shore bombardment Monitors - for those countries with expeditionary forces? That use still needs local air support for, if not outright air superiority for protection from the enemy on shore. The Monitors provide the big guns, but with little likelihood of ship-to-ship gun duels; there's less call on treasure, steel, powerplants, and manpower. Immediate post-WW2, airpower provides the long range punch, but Monitors could provide close-to-the-beach gunfire support and remain on station regardless of weather. That window of utility closes up as all-weather attack planes become more capable.
 
No FoF but a FoG in 41? Then no Med/Pacific war, but would it still be called WWII?
Well the Rise of the Carrier was really a Pacific thing; assuming there was no Pacific phase to the war, and limited engagements in the Atlantic, the naval war might have been a more cruiser/frigate orientated one with limited battleship/carrier actions and the naval command might have continued with the big-gun ships.

In the EDC the second world war analog was the Eastern War and was mainly a land war; the UK and US did not participate, being engaged in a low level civil war ('The Troubles') and having fallen apart respectively. Russia was the main antagonist, having had one revolution in 1915 and developed a fatally weak democracy that was swept away in 1930 when the Big Slump and 'Okie 'flu arrived. It was replaced by a nasty homegrown political cult espousing a windy mix of nationalism, anti-liberalism, anti-socialism, social conservatism, Pan-Slavism, reactionary (Orthodox) Christianity and anti-Semitism, with tinges of xenophobia and Russia's Great Destiny (to incorporate the Eurasian continent). It didn't go well as surprisingly few countries were enthusiastic about submitting to the new regime and, despite a decade of
forced-draught industrialistion, they didn't really have the industrial capacity. Seventy five years later there are still pockets of Eastern Europe that are contaminated...
There was little in the way of large scale naval action, so battleships survived.
 
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