Post-Watchmen TL Discussion

One idea that I was considering was making a TL about the Earth after the Watchmen. I think that I searched for something about this and it was all about characters.

What I want to do is that I want to have a TL going from I think it was '87 when we had the squid and go with the early '90s and some USA-USSR friendship.

I am thinking that, for a TL at least, the movie ending would be a bit better but that's just my opinion.

Just wondering what others' opinions and more dedicated Watchmen fans would have to say.
 
Well, it almost goes without saying that space research will have a much bigger budget than in OTL. We might even see a separate armed service for space.
 

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I'd like to see/write some of the New Frontiersman's take on Rorschach's journal and the effects it has if released into the public.
 
The New Frontiersman was seen as a fringe paper; if Rorschach's journal did get published (not a certainty), it'd probably get laughed off and the NF would just be seen as farther fringe. We'll probably get peace and prosperity for a couple of decades while Ozymandias brings new technology out and manipulates events from the shadows. After Ozy goes, though, all bets are off. There's a good chance that after enough time has passed, the squid/Manhattan nukings will be forgotten as international rivalries take their place.

It might be a good idea to have it sometime in the future, when international squabbles are once again taking the fore.
 
I think the ideologies would reignite the conflict sooner or later. I mean, it's not like there was a cold war between the US and UK or even France dispide they all beeing nuclear powers.
 
The New Frontiersman was seen as a fringe paper; if Rorschach's journal did get published (not a certainty), it'd probably get laughed off and the NF would just be seen as farther fringe. We'll probably get peace and prosperity for a couple of decades while Ozymandias brings new technology out and manipulates events from the shadows. After Ozy goes, though, all bets are off. There's a good chance that after enough time has passed, the squid/Manhattan nukings will be forgotten as international rivalries take their place.

It might be a good idea to have it sometime in the future, when international squabbles are once again taking the fore.


The thing that gets me though is that the defacto truce at the end between Ozy and Nite Owl was based on the fact that everything was a fait acomplie.

With Rorshack dead and obviously missing the Journal, which is all about a mask killer that Rorshack says is Ozy, unanswerable questions arise.

1. Did Nite Owl and Rorschak go to Anartica?

2. Where is Rorschak?

3. Was, Eddie the Comedian?

4. Who killed Eddie?

5. And why?

First break, when senior goverment officals, off the record confirm that Eddie was indeed the Comedian, he was killed by persons unknown, who seemed more than human tough.

At this point Ozy has really got to be wondering what he should do about Nite Owl and Jupiter Girl.

And Nite Owl has got to be wondering if Ozy is going to try to kill him.

Also, shouldn't someone be wondering who killed a high level goverment asset? Didn't he have any friends or at least allies?
 
I'm pretty sure Ozy wouldn't let the masses know about Rorschach's journal, or else his master plan would fail.

Also, he's quite healthy for his age, and I'm positive the Squid was not the final piece of his plan. He would have at least 20-30 years to set things up for further world peace, and again, an genius like Ozymandias would be sure to put plans into affect that outlive him, ensuring world peace.
 
I'm pretty sure Ozy wouldn't let the masses know about Rorschach's journal, or else his master plan would fail.

Also, he's quite healthy for his age, and I'm positive the Squid was not the final piece of his plan. He would have at least 20-30 years to set things up for further world peace, and again, an genius like Ozymandias would be sure to put plans into affect that outlive him, ensuring world peace.


Unless he hears about it ahead of time his hands are tied.

What do you forsee? The paper contacting him for comments? They, a. probably wouldn't until it was to late for him to file any legal injunctions and b. probably would have quite a probably getting ahold of him.

ONce the journal in published any attempts on his part to supress it only gives crediblity to it.

10 years down stream people would be standing along side the road as his limo drove by with signs " Where is Rorschak?"

His ablility to operate would be limited.

And as time passes no more squids. Unless he wants to try additional stunts while under a microscope.

Because someone will be wondering if and why he killed The Comedian.

Someone or someones that even Ozy wouldn't want to upset unduly.

Hell, I bet Nixon and the Comedian were probably well aquainted.

What does Nixon think of this? Is he going to wonder why this occurred? What is this about? DOes Ozy plan to kill anymore of my top people?
 
This should really be in the Alternate History Books and Media thread.

Oh, I tried to make it be less Watchmen but more politics but if you insist.

Well what I feel is that the New Frontiersman was quite fringe, period, like the right's Counterpunch.

I mean Nixon died in 1994, there were thoughts that Reagan would run in 88 but I think that they were dismissed. Of course, if that is the case, who would run for President in 1988, both Democrats and Republicans?
 
Unless he hears about it ahead of time his hands are tied.

What do you forsee? The paper contacting him for comments? They, a. probably wouldn't until it was to late for him to file any legal injunctions and b. probably would have quite a probably getting ahold of him.

ONce the journal in published any attempts on his part to supress it only gives crediblity to it.

10 years down stream people would be standing along side the road as his limo drove by with signs " Where is Rorschak?"

His ablility to operate would be limited.

And as time passes no more squids. Unless he wants to try additional stunts while under a microscope.

Because someone will be wondering if and why he killed The Comedian.

Someone or someones that even Ozy wouldn't want to upset unduly.

Hell, I bet Nixon and the Comedian were probably well aquainted.

What does Nixon think of this? Is he going to wonder why this occurred? What is this about? DOes Ozy plan to kill anymore of my top people?

This is not about just five people. What I want to do is have a TL that is about what happens political after the "events"

I don't even want to do the squid ending. Squid is only good on sushi or fried with marinara sauce or cashiers at the Krusty Krab.
 
Oh, I tried to make it be less Watchmen but more politics but if you insist.

Well what I feel is that the New Frontiersman was quite fringe, period, like the right's Counterpunch.

It looks like to me in the Watchmen, the New Frontiersmen has a large readership. I mean it's sold right on the streets with the mainstream newspapers like the New York Gazette. I think it's like Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity only a published version.
 
This is not about just five people. What I want to do is have a TL that is about what happens political after the "events"

I don't even want to do the squid ending. Squid is only good on sushi or fried with marinara sauce or cashiers at the Krusty Krab.

Period of detente between the two powers.

Lack of followup on the threatened invasion combined with real conflicts of interest and ideological conflicts eventually lead to renewed conflict.

You end up with a Cold War where the US won Vietnam. Baby boomers less dominated by counter-culture types.

Could play out like any Cold War timeline.

Supposedly Dr. Manhattan had helped with technological advancement, electric cars I remember, so oil less of an issue.

Overall I don't see any big changes to underlying trends from OTL.

The Sovs can't advance in Europe. They can't compete economically.

They can push in proxy wars, but the US can push back and with a Vietnam victory behind us, with more crediblity.

Eventually the Sovs must reform their economy. The question is is their any reason to think they will do it differantly in TTL or be more successfull at keeping political control during and after said reforms.
 
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