...well that was depressing. just watched the whole thing
for some reason i think they underestimated the effects of nuclear winter. Also I don't believe the government would be able to retain that kind of control during the situation
so I keep having this recurring idea of a Nuclear war in 1982 or 83 where the UK is flattened but Northern Ireland is more or less untouched, how likely is this? what are your thoughts on a Nuclear war in the 1980s and what it'd do to the UK and/or Ireland?
Watched it, and I think like War games (BBC film about the same thing just in 1965) it shows off a rosey view of Nuclear war, both plan a lot of faith in the local Government/civil defense, like when the mayor goes to that fall out base or whatever, as bleak as it got it seems to me more likely that no civil government in main-land government would make it through, and Police/Military would take and hoard food for themselves (think 28 days latter) also the general fear of more attacks or a Russian invasion would make things worse, I think small hunter gatherer bands is a more likely out look than anything else.
Watched it, and I think like War games (BBC film about the same thing just in 1965) it shows off a rosey view of Nuclear war, both plan a lot of faith in the local Government/civil defense, like when the mayor goes to that fall out base or whatever, as bleak as it got it seems to me more likely that no civil government in main-land government would make it through, and Police/Military would take and hoard food for themselves (think 28 days latter) also the general fear of more attacks or a Russian invasion would make things worse, I think small hunter gatherer bands is a more likely out look than anything else.
I love how you feel a movie which depicts the UK turning into a totalitarian dictatorship and then eventually a no man's land of immense proportions is showing a rosey view of things.
so we've gotten that the UK will be flattened, Northern Ireland may or may not take a few hits, what of the Republic of Ireland?
I love how you feel a movie which depicts the UK turning into a totalitarian dictatorship and then eventually a no man's land of immense proportions is showing a rosey view of things.
when it comes to Nuclear war, that is the best case. Its rosey in that all government figures do their duty and act selflessly to try and rebuilt, so that after the war there's things like electricity and society.
Threads is extremely bleak. One must note that the nuclear winter scenario it postulates is based on falsified, disproven information. Whilst a major exchange would cause nasty weather effects, it would be nowhere near as bad as the 'freezing twilight world' of Threads.
When we look at the closest analogs to a nuclear war scenario, namely Hiroshima, Nagasaki and Dresden, we see that, although the damage was apocalyptic, life eventually went on. Naturally, if the whole country or the whole world suffers the same fate, this will be harder and take longer, but it will happen.
uhm might i interject with the thought that.. hiroshima and nagasaki bounced back so quickly was becuase the first several feet of radioactive topsoil was removed and dumped into the ocean. Dresden was not nuclear.. even Chernobyl while a decent example not the best example..
Do you have a source for that?
Threads was ment to be bleak.. but not so bleak as the good government officials wouldnt keep a stiff upper lip and do ones duty for god queen and country. that would be too bleak at least for TV at the time. But to this day that is probably the most accurate portrayal of what would happen at least after the bombs start to fall.
Do you have a source for that? Because I've never heard that before, and I have a hard time believing it. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were airbursts; my understanding, as a non-expert, is that airbursts result in little fallout or residual radioactivity.
There isn't one because it didn't happen.
"Several feet of topsoil" were not removed. In fact across most of the planet's land surface, the term "several feet of topsoil" is an oxymoron. Topsoil in that amount simply doesn't exist.
Rubble was removed however and some of it was dumped at sea.
...the first several feet where dug up and dumped off the continental shelf off the cost of south carolina..
I wish i could dig out the source.. its in one of my books.. nuclear warehouse in the modern age... the first several feet where dug up and dumped off the continental shelf off the cost of south carolina.. i will endeavor to dig the source for that one.. but i had verified it several times back in the 80's doing a paper for high school cause even my teacher was like what?! it was also in a USA Today article which was where i got the info to start then dug around the library of congress for into .. i will go through my stuff and get a some isbn numbers.
The proportion of Gaelic speakers in the country would go up massively.