Post 1870s: Was Latin America doomed to be in the US's sphere of influence?

Like could any other countries have a Latin American nation in it's sphere if influence, or would the US just keep stomping them out? Or if a Latin American nation wanted to form alliances with some other nation, would the US just attempt overthrow the government and success Everytime, with no failures. I am interested in seeing something similar to a close Asian power/ Latin American nation relationship, but it seems that the US pretty much steps on the possibility of anything like that happening. So, is Latin America cursed to be American puppets , or could they ever have successfully taken control of their own foreign relations, and not be prevented by doing so , because of the US.
 
pre 1950s the only Asian nation able to do anything in Latin America was Japan, and even then only if it chose a different direction (emphasizing commercial trade instead of empire building)

Before that it was only the Europeans and their emphasis of Imperialism made the Monroe Doctrine (backed by the US AND the British Empire) the major stumbling block. Toss in the Roosevelt Corollary post 1900 and the rather large (and continually growing) US Navy and Europe is locked out

Only the British made any serious efforts, and only in the area of trade.

You need several POD to change all this
 
pre 1950s the only Asian nation able to do anything in Latin America was Japan, and even then only if it chose a different direction (emphasizing commercial trade instead of empire building)

Before that it was only the Europeans and their emphasis of Imperialism made the Monroe Doctrine (backed by the US AND the British Empire) the major stumbling block. Toss in the Roosevelt Corollary post 1900 and the rather large (and continually growing) US Navy and Europe is locked out

Only the British made any serious efforts, and only in the area of trade.

You need several POD to change all this
So, could a non militaristic Japan make special relationships with a Latin American country. Also which one would it make special relationships with, if it did?
 
Like could any other countries have a Latin American nation in it's sphere if influence, or would the US just keep stomping them out? Or if a Latin American nation wanted to form alliances with some other nation, would the US just attempt overthrow the government and success Everytime, with no failures. I am interested in seeing something similar to a close Asian power/ Latin American nation relationship, but it seems that the US pretty much steps on the possibility of anything like that happening. So, is Latin America cursed to be American puppets , or could they ever have successfully taken control of their own foreign relations, and not be prevented by doing so , because of the US.

As much I honestly like Ameriwanking myself.....no, not necessarily. TL;DR-IOTL, things had to go in a certain direction for that to actually work out.
 
regarding Cuba and the USSR, as this is a pre 1900 thread should that even be included?

The problem Latin America has is diffuse centers of power. There is Mexico, Peru, Chile and Brazil that have sufficiently large enough populations and economic power to be a nascent major power. The problem is that they are widely separated geographically or are divided by language. So consolidation into a single major power is difficult. Now Mexico might have had a chance, but the Mexican War but an end to that pretty decisively.

Peru ceased to be a major player once the supply of riches from the ground was finished up. So that leaves Chile (distant from practically everywhere else on Earth), Brazil and Argentina. None of them came close to the population of North America until the latter part of the 20th Century.

So unless the United States is divided or fails to come into existence there are major hurdles to clear here for Latin America
 
From 1870 till 1930, or even till 1945, the most influential partner in trrms of trade and investment in the Southern Cone was Great Britain. Germany was also influential in the inmediate years before WWI. The US was not that important, neither in terms of economical or political influence. All that began in around 1930, and consolidated after 1945.

It didn't last that long: nowadays, for many southamerican countries, such as Argentina, Urugusy or Brazil, China is one of the main trading partners, often surpassing the US. It is also an important source of investment flows. The US cultural influence remains unchallenged, but its political influence has greatly diminished since 2000.

Its no wonder the new Presidents of both Brazil and Argentina (both Center-right) are currently in China. Tweenty years ago, a Brazilian president would probably go to the US before travelling to Asia, as Temer has just done. An importat factor to consider is that both are center right, and have no traces of Antiamericanism as their more left-leaning immediate predecessors might have had. Yet they chose to go to China, cause its China who buys most of what we produce (as European or North American countries did in the past).

I am refering to South America, and mostly to its Southern Part. Mexico, Central America and the Caribbean are a different matter, as there there is a lot of trade with the US, and migrants from these countries to the US sent significant amount of money to their home countries that are important for their economies. That is way the US has a great influence there.
 
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From 1870 till 1930, or even till 1945, the most influential partner in trrms of trade and investment in the Southern Cone was Great Britain. Germany was also influential in the inmediate years before WWI. The US was not that important, neither in terms of economical or political influence. All that began in around 1930, and consolidated after 1945.

It didn't last that long: nowadays, for many southamerican countries, such as Argentina, Urugusy or Brazil, China is one of the main trading partners, often surpassing the US. It is also an important source of investment flows. The US cultural influence remains unchallenged, but its political influence has greatly diminished since 2000.

Its no wonder the new Presidents of both Brazil and Argentina (both Center-right) are currently in China. Tweenty years ago, a Brazilian president would probably go to the US before travelling to Asia, as Temer has just done. An importat factor to consider is that both are center right, and have no traces of Antiamericanism as their more left-leaning immediate predecessors might have had. Yet they chose to go to China, cause its China who buys most of what we produce (as European or North American countries did in the past).

I am refering to South America, and mostly to its Southern Part. Mexico, Central America and the Caribbean are a different matter, as there there is a lot of trade with the US, and migrants from these countries to the US sent significant amount of money to their home countries that are important for their economies. That is way the US has a great influence there.

its always a mistake lumping all of Latin America together as a whole. The Caribbean has little to do economically with South America south of the Amazon or for that matter Eastern Pacific South America. Only Colombia and Panama really are in both spheres, and both are far more tied to the Caribbean zone.
 

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Not unless something sparks a war between the United States and the British Empire, in which the latter prevails and decides to set up shop in the region. But I would consider this very unlikely.
 
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