Possible borders in North America?

Considering an ATL where colonization went differently, what are some borders possible for north America?

Namely, I want to see a good border for the areas of OTL New York and thereabouts and the area from south of the St Lawrence River (OTL New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, and Maine).
 

Skokie

Banned
I'd like to see a New York wank one of these days, with all the claims made by New Netherlands/New York remaining in tact (NY, VT, PA, NJ, DE, parts of Canada, MA, CT and the Ohio Valley), leading eventually to independence—either as a republic or part of a commonwealth.

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From the Connecticut to the Pacific shall be our motto!
 
I sometimes wonder whether it was ever possible for the initial Colonies to properly fully on the land that they claimed, and thus end up with a most of the original states controlling strips of land half-way across the continent, as opposed to the OTL thing where territories formed were held as under the control of the US government in general (I know there were some exceptions to this, mainly in the south, but they generally ended quite early). Ultimately I'm curious as to whether the idea of states owning territories could extend much further (possibly even to the present day) though I suspect that the idea of every man having representation in government, which was (sort of) the essence of the rallying cry during the ARW probably means that it's implausible for an alt-USA to not give statehood to territories as soon as possible.

That tiny, somewhat pathetic strip that South Carolina has in the map above, for instance, is particularly interesting. I wonder if it's possible that they could have controlled that land and held it long enough to actively seek to extend their claims further westwards...and if they could, perhaps it could have eventually made the most ridiculously thin state ever.
 
I sometimes wonder whether it was ever possible for the initial Colonies to properly fully on the land that they claimed, and thus end up with a most of the original states controlling strips of land half-way across the continent, as opposed to the OTL thing where territories formed were held as under the control of the US government in general (I know there were some exceptions to this, mainly in the south, but they generally ended quite early). Ultimately I'm curious as to whether the idea of states owning territories could extend much further (possibly even to the present day) though I suspect that the idea of every man having representation in government, which was (sort of) the essence of the rallying cry during the ARW probably means that it's implausible for an alt-USA to not give statehood to territories as soon as possible.

That tiny, somewhat pathetic strip that South Carolina has in the map above, for instance, is particularly interesting. I wonder if it's possible that they could have controlled that land and held it long enough to actively seek to extend their claims further westwards...and if they could, perhaps it could have eventually made the most ridiculously thin state ever.


Er... Most of that land was claimed by several colonies at the same time (just look at the map closely; and don't forget that's only the Northern claims). Still, quite a funny idea, though probably rather implausible (still, it seems to work in LTTW; had Thande said anything about what happens to those strips later on? (There's no SC there though, IIRC.)
And re Skokie - do you really mean a New York State holding land all the way to the Mississippi (both the state and the river)? To the borders of Louisiana Purchase? Never mind Michigan - that's relatively close by comparison... And if one actually happens, wouldn't it grow even larger by getting land from LP and later additions? (Think NYS all the way to Kansas, or even Colorado, if not California... :eek:)


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I believe the South Carolina strip was based on incorrect geography and didn't really exist. Not exactly viable anyway.
 
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