Possibility of Anglo-Dutch Union?

Is there a possibility of a full union between Great Britain and the Netherlands anytime after 1689 that could last until the modern day. And when I say union I mean not just a personal union, but a political union also with a shared monarch.

I just like the idea of this and wondered whether it's at all possible. If it's been discussed before sorry for raising the topic again and I would appreciate a link to the discussion.
 
Of course, one question that occurs to me is "why wouldn't they simply not nominate a stadtholder after William dies?"

It's not a hereditary title, after all.
 

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Of course, one question that occurs to me is "why wouldn't they simply not nominate a stadtholder after William dies?"

It's not a hereditary title, after all.

That was what I was thinking, even though the House of Oranien pretty much dominated Dutch politics, the Netherlands was still technically a republic.
 
Of course, one question that occurs to me is "why wouldn't they simply not nominate a stadtholder after William dies?"

It's not a hereditary title, after all.

Actually I think that is very likely to happen. Maybe not if William dies leaving an heir. William had to much influence for that to happen, assuming of course the heir was old enough to succeed him. If not you could get the same situation after stadholder Willem II died. No stadholder elected.
My guess is that the following would have happened:
William III dies leaving a som (Willem/William) old enough to succeed him both as stadholder and as king of England, Scotland, etc. Holland, Zeeland, Utrecht, Gelderland and Overijssel appoint him stadholder of their provinces (leaving Groningen and Friesland to Johan Friso). Willem IV proves to be more William IV than Willem IV, he pays far more attention to England than he does to the Netherlands. When he dies the Dutch provinces decide they rather have a Dutch stadholder than an English one and appoint not the first, but second son of William IV as their stadholder or possibly appoint the stadholder of Friesland and Groningen as their stadholder, ending the personal union.
Eventhough this might be my opinion of what would have happened, Flocc's timeline is still a great read.
 
When he dies the Dutch provinces decide they rather have a Dutch stadholder than an English one and appoint not the first, but second son of William IV as their stadholder or possibly appoint the stadholder of Friesland and Groningen as their stadholder, ending the personal union.

If the Netherlands did that, then who's to say that England won't march in there and plant the flag of St. George right up their asses? I mean, countries certainly weren't beyond such behaviour in that time period.
 
When he dies the Dutch provinces decide they rather have a Dutch stadholder than an English one and appoint not the first, but second son of William IV as their stadholder or possibly appoint the stadholder of Friesland and Groningen as their stadholder, ending the personal union.
Eventhough this might be my opinion of what would have happened, Flocc's timeline is still a great read.

Thanks- I'd be the first to admit that my Anglo-Dutch Empire TL is, if not ASB, a gigantic wank :D
 

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If the Netherlands did that, then who's to say that England won't march in there and plant the flag of St. George right up their asses? I mean, countries certainly weren't beyond such behaviour in that time period.


The same thing that stopped Charles II when de Witt messed with his nephew?
 
After the English Civil Wars of the 1640s and 50s, would the Dutch even want England? The whole Catholic-Protestant divide seems more trouble than it's worth.
 
After the English Civil Wars of the 1640s and 50s, would the Dutch even want England? The whole Catholic-Protestant divide seems more trouble than it's worth.

The religion issue is big (that was why the Dutch insisted on being referred to for all decisions concerning "Belgium" but were loathe to own the place) although people could be pretty flexible. Dutch Willie himself was Presbytarian here, Anglican in England, and... what were the Dutch again?
 

HJ Tulp

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The religion issue is big (that was why the Dutch insisted on being referred to for all decisions concerning "Belgium" but were loathe to own the place) although people could be pretty flexible. Dutch Willie himself was Presbytarian here, Anglican in England, and... what were the Dutch again?


Dutch Reformed.
 
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