Portuguese Katanga?

I don't think that the British made much of a fuss whenever Germany acquired any of its OTL Subsaharian colonies. They mostly didn't clash with British interests and I don't think Bissau would either.
 
I don't think that the British made much of a fuss whenever Germany acquired any of its OTL Subsaharian colonies. They mostly didn't clash with British interests and I don't think Bissau would either.

I suppose that France would be PISSED, though.
Which, by the way, is a good reason for Bismarck not to go along with that. He wanted France to focus on Africa and on the rivalry with Britain, as that would make France less likely to meditate revenge about Alsace-Lorraine and focus on the enmity with Germany.
Germans gaining a foothold in the French area of interest in Africa would mean spectacularly bad feelings in France arising. Actually, most German activity in Africa interfered more with British interests than French ones, although they never antagonized Britain directly.
Bismarck might be more interested in getting some parts of Angola close to Southwest Africa (less likely, a bit of Mozambique) as a "compensation", or maybe Timor (that some circles in Germany had long coveted for some reason).
 
I suppose that France would be PISSED, though.
Ah didn't factor those in. Not only did they have their own Guinea on the east but they also secured Casamance from the Portuguese in the west, closing in Portuguese Guinea. They'd probably be more eager bidders.

Bismarck might be more interested in getting some parts of Angola close to Southwest Africa (less likely, a bit of Mozambique) as a "compensation", or maybe Timor (that some circles in Germany had long coveted for some reason).
Timor is the kind of place that when Portugal gets on sale, is among the first to go. Too far, too costly and neglected.
 

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Ah didn't factor those in. Not only did they have their own Guinea on the east but they also secured Casamance from the Portuguese in the west, closing in Portuguese Guinea. They'd probably be more eager bidders.


Timor is the kind of place that when Portugal gets on sale, is among the first to go. Too far, too costly and neglected.

Maybe, if Portuguese sell Guinea, that can start the trend, so the Portuguese could sell Timor and/or Macao... What I wan't to say is that these things could not be popular becase they had never made before... Maybe if Portuguese get rid of less than profitable colonies ( Guinea, Timor, Macao ) they could invest more in the more profitable ones...
 
What I wan't to say is that these things could not be popular becase they had never made before..

Some "integralists" wouldn't like it but the people would get over it. The Dutch and Danish didn't riot over a strategic sale here and there... Nor was there such a big fuss in Portugal over disclaimed historic rights in say Casamance and what's now Bas-Congo.
 

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Some "integralists" wouldn't like it but the people would get over it. The Dutch and Danish didn't riot over a strategic sale here and there... Nor was there such a big fuss in Portugal over disclaimed historic rights in say Casamance and what's now Bas-Congo.

I would like to see Portugal selling it's Indian posessions, but I doubt it possible, too important historically...;)
 
I would like to see Portugal selling it's Indian posessions, but I doubt it possible, too important historically...;)
Goa, Diu and Macau mean a lot to romantic nationalists so one would need charisma to sell so much and commit to an "Africa only" rational colonial policy. People would pout but I think they'd eventually get over it.
 
Goa, Diu and Macau mean a lot to romantic nationalists so one would need charisma to sell so much and commit to an "Africa only" rational colonial policy. People would pout but I think they'd eventually get over it.

They might start selling the most isolated exclaves such as Havely and Ukusi...
 
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