Popular misconceptions about 19th century History

Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: Before 1900' started by Lampiao, Nov 1, 2018.

  1. Flashman A Real Go-Getter

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    Rather a large difference between limiting a free press during a national crisis/war and limiting a free press during peacetime in order to further the cause of human chattel slavery.
     
  2. Tanc49 Domitian Truther

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    Because of Confucianism and prolific consumption of rice, China is fully adverse to any technological and social innovation
     
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  3. skarosianlifeform Well-Known Member

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    And also Japan didn't change AT ALL during the pre-Meiji isolation period, and instead was in total stasis.
     
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  4. Gloss Well-Known Member

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    Northern China eats grain, must explain their superiority. /s
     
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  5. Koprulu Mustafa Pasha Sadrazam of the Roman Empire

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    My list of misconceptions:


    1. Ottoman Empire failed to reform.

    2. War of independences created the States in the Balkans (it was Russia, it was always Russia).

    3. Every European Power had the goal to drive the Turks out of Europe (to be fair, it was probably desired as an utopia but nobody wanted the other to fill the vacuum abandoned by the Ottomans).

    4. Russia with a different Czar (Constantin, longer Alexander II etc...) is destined to turn in to a constitutional monarchy.

    5. Austria-Hungary is destined to lose all/most of their non-German lands.
     
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  6. Brunaburh Gone Fishin'

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    1. The Irish potato famine was a natural disaster.
    2. Italian unification was inevitable and the Italian population welcomed it.
    3. Southern Italy had a small brigand problem rather than a nationalist terror.
     
  7. cmakk1012 Well-Known Member

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    Hey, that’s not fair! Sometimes it was Britain!

    I’m almost tempted to argue the opposite—that no matter who was on the throne the nation would eventually become oppressively totalitarian.
     
  8. 123456789blaaa Well-Known Member

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    Here's another: the idea that the Ottomans had no involvement in the Scramble for Africa. The disaster of the 1877-78 war severely limited their options but there was a tremendous amount of detail and interest put into plans to extend OE interests with Muslim Africa states/peoples. The Ottoman Scramble for Africa: Empire and Diplomacy in the Sahara and the Hijaz is a great book that goes into this.