Popculture Challenge: "Complete Monster" trope more popular and liked by audiences

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Your challenge, should you accept it, is to make the concept of "Complete Monster" trope more popular in the "Evil is Cool" manner. Bascially it's villains in works of fiction utterly lacking in redeeming features. Trying to put a value on the evilness of a Complete Monster is like calculating the credit score of Bill Gates: it's a moot point.

Instead of generating revulsion of hope the character dies in a fire, what could make the view of the more popular instead of despised as the original trope says you have to hate these characters just cause they are too evil, what could make the pure evil concept more "accepted" among pop culture mentality?

Bonus points is if the authors still make them pure evil and avoid any DILP fantasies, and even more bonus points if magnificent bastards and sympathetic and likable villains remain popular as well.

Some poD's that could make this work is if the old way of viewing the bad guy is slowly stripped away. Have the 90s era cartoon writing continue to the 21st century--they actually have as much memorable and actually awesome Complete Monster style characters along with awesome and sympathetic anti villains and magnificent bastards. Also butterfly away 9/11 for some reason. I also heard somewhere that Lord Zedd from Power Rangers would have ended up like this had the soccer moms not intervened, but the fans liked him regardless, if finding him quite scary, so butterfly away the soccer moms and we have an entire generation that think that pure evil in fiction is cool and awesome. Also have Kefka(who's a very, very popular Complete Monster) and possibly Hojo(another one, through not as popular) be more popular than Sephiroth, and FFVI overtake FFVII in both sales and pop culture stigma.

Also more M-rated games with massive video game cruelty potential having more sales amoung the teenage and tween demographic would work no soccer mom concerns would actually make this work, the only opposition would be Jack Thompson but he's a douche and hard to take seriously. Also have Heath Ledger win more post humorous awards for his "Complete Monster" portrayal of the Joker, which was quite popular as a character. End result might actually have disney employees urging people to buy more Lotso bears just because he's so popular! Overall there will be a split between the generation that believes the old Shakespearean mentality we have to root against the villains and cheer the heroes and another younger generation that finds the concept of pure evil awesome.

Gee, I hope this dosen't seep into politics and make the world a dystopia........

NOTE: This applies to fictional characters in published media, not fanfic characters
 
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The Joker (and in particular Heath Ledger)'s popularity is proof positive that this is already the case at least some of the time.

By the way, trying to infect this board with the plague that is TVTropes is evil in and of itself. I'm watching you, wiseguy...
 
The Joker (and in particular Heath Ledger)'s popularity is proof positive that this is already the case at least some of the time.

The Joker had some funny lines, and his Nihilist ideals even got him a little bit of philosophical support for some.

The problem with these characters is that they're so irredeemably evil that they're only charm can be through how cheesy or camp they're obsession with how evil they are is. Not that this can't work but they'll never be truly 'cool'.
 
The TV Tropes definition of "complete monster" is so slippery and stretchy as to be worthless as a means of describing fiction. There is no hard distinction between what is and is not a "complete monster", and as such on TVT it generally means "villain who acts evil".

This is my problem with TV Tropes at large. A true trope is a very specific thing, a convention used to convey an idea, which is used repeatedly in fiction. It's like a written cliché, a collection of ideas used to express a single idea. The same way "at the end of the day" communicates "ultimately", a Bond villain's deformity communicates that he is evil. TV Tropes tries to smash every little thing into building blocks of fiction they call "tropes".
 
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This is my problem with TV Tropes at large. A true trope is a very specific thing, a convention used to convey an idea, which is used repeatedly in fiction. It's like a written cliché, a collection of ideas used to express a single idea. The same way "at the end of the day" communicates "ultimately", a Bond villain's deformity communicates that he is evil. TV Tropes tries to smash every little thing into building blocks of fiction they call "tropes".

I think TV Tropes is better as a kind of nerdy trivia website than an actual resource for writers.
 
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