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I recently thought about some of the ideas I had derived from @NoName and @OldNavy1988 for past posts, and thought of more ideas:
- Warner Bros tries animated films again, and succeeds thanks to Chuck Jones' darkly comical and often satricial tone in said early films.
- Hanna-Barbera is basically a subsidiary of MGM rather than a completely different company.
- Animation outsourcing starts earlier than OTL, with Hanna Barbera using it to get decent animation at cheaper prices than what they could afford in the States.
- The Sword in the Stone does decently enough that Walt remains hands-off during the Jungle Book's production. Leading to among other things, a tone closer in nature to Bill Peet's original treatment, complete with Terry Gilkyson's songs.
- When Nickelodeon turns down the idea of Veggietales, Phil Vischer and Mike Nawrocki turn elsewhere, and eventually succeed in pitching it to another studio. Possibly Hanna-Barbera using this show as a way to escape their doldrums. OR: Nick does take up the idea, which begs the question of what happens to Jimmy Neutron.
- Chris Savino's Foe Paws is picked up as a CN series in 2001.
- CN Real is ultimately butterflied, and Craig McCracken stays at the studio as a result. Would this mean Wander Over Yonder is closer to his original idea for the series? Would he make than and Kid Cosmic at CN?
- Warner Bros tries animated films again, and succeeds thanks to Chuck Jones' darkly comical and often satricial tone in said early films.
- Hanna-Barbera is basically a subsidiary of MGM rather than a completely different company.
- Animation outsourcing starts earlier than OTL, with Hanna Barbera using it to get decent animation at cheaper prices than what they could afford in the States.
- The Sword in the Stone does decently enough that Walt remains hands-off during the Jungle Book's production. Leading to among other things, a tone closer in nature to Bill Peet's original treatment, complete with Terry Gilkyson's songs.
- When Nickelodeon turns down the idea of Veggietales, Phil Vischer and Mike Nawrocki turn elsewhere, and eventually succeed in pitching it to another studio. Possibly Hanna-Barbera using this show as a way to escape their doldrums. OR: Nick does take up the idea, which begs the question of what happens to Jimmy Neutron.
- Chris Savino's Foe Paws is picked up as a CN series in 2001.
- CN Real is ultimately butterflied, and Craig McCracken stays at the studio as a result. Would this mean Wander Over Yonder is closer to his original idea for the series? Would he make than and Kid Cosmic at CN?
Some thoughts...
SeaQuest DSV Season 2
Despite a desire to revamp the show, the series doesn't relocate to Orlando. Therefore, despite Royce D. Applegate and John D'Aquino being released from their contracts, both Stacey Haiduk and Stephanie Beacham stay with the show.
Returning Regular Cast:
Roy Scheider, Don Franklin, Stacey Haiduk, Stephanie Beacham, Ted Raimi, Marco Sanchez
Promoted Regular Cast:
Dustin Nguyen as William Shan. With the departure of Chief Crocker, and the drive for youth and diversity, the role of Shan was made a regular, with the character promoted to Security Chief rather than Helmsman and Security Officer.
New Regular Cast:
Eric Close as Lieutenant Anthony Piccolo. A combination of OTL Brody and OTL Piccolo, without the grated fish gills. In this version, he starts as a warden at the UEO prison in the season opener, then remains onboard as am EVA Specialist.
Elise Neal as JK Fredericks. Basically a much much less annoying version of OTL Ensign Henderson, with the PTSD of OTL Lieutenant Fredericks, without the cyber implant.
Episode 1 and 2 - Daggers
A riot at a UEO prison where Daggers are held - whilst OTL Daggers were genetically engineered, here they are more Jason Bourne type soldiers who couldn't be reverse brainwashed and returned to society. Doctor Levine (Timothy Omundsen) returns, now officially described as Westphalen's Deputy and gives the infodump on the brainwashing programmes, much as he did with the paranormal in "Knight of Shadows" the previous season.
Episode 3 - Sympathy for the Deep
A small group of volunteers on a research station are the subject of experiments to trigger ESP talents, but the experiments may be driving the volunteers insane. The episode picks up on the hints that Bridger, Lucas and Tim had some sort of ESP abilities from the last season in "Treasures of the Mind"
Episode 4 - When We Dead Awaken
SeaQuest stumbles upon a warehouse of cryogenically frozen individuals that is under threat from earthquakes. One of the individuals turns out to be Piccolo's missing mother. Builds upon the cryogenic tech seen in "Games"
Episode 5 - Dead End
A SeaLaunch with Ford, Hitchcock, Lukas and Tim on is sucked into a cavern beneath the sea floor and repairs to it mean that they will need to leave one person behind, with each person arguing why they should be on the launch.
Episode 6 - Meltdown (Halloween Special)
An accident at a power station under the ice caps causes the ice to melt and a giant prehistoric crocodile to be released. JAWS with submarines - including manipulating Bridger into the position of declaring that they will need a bigger boat.
SeaQuest DSV Season 2
Despite a desire to revamp the show, the series doesn't relocate to Orlando. Therefore, despite Royce D. Applegate and John D'Aquino being released from their contracts, both Stacey Haiduk and Stephanie Beacham stay with the show.
Returning Regular Cast:
Roy Scheider, Don Franklin, Stacey Haiduk, Stephanie Beacham, Ted Raimi, Marco Sanchez
Promoted Regular Cast:
Dustin Nguyen as William Shan. With the departure of Chief Crocker, and the drive for youth and diversity, the role of Shan was made a regular, with the character promoted to Security Chief rather than Helmsman and Security Officer.
New Regular Cast:
Eric Close as Lieutenant Anthony Piccolo. A combination of OTL Brody and OTL Piccolo, without the grated fish gills. In this version, he starts as a warden at the UEO prison in the season opener, then remains onboard as am EVA Specialist.
Elise Neal as JK Fredericks. Basically a much much less annoying version of OTL Ensign Henderson, with the PTSD of OTL Lieutenant Fredericks, without the cyber implant.
Episode 1 and 2 - Daggers
A riot at a UEO prison where Daggers are held - whilst OTL Daggers were genetically engineered, here they are more Jason Bourne type soldiers who couldn't be reverse brainwashed and returned to society. Doctor Levine (Timothy Omundsen) returns, now officially described as Westphalen's Deputy and gives the infodump on the brainwashing programmes, much as he did with the paranormal in "Knight of Shadows" the previous season.
Episode 3 - Sympathy for the Deep
A small group of volunteers on a research station are the subject of experiments to trigger ESP talents, but the experiments may be driving the volunteers insane. The episode picks up on the hints that Bridger, Lucas and Tim had some sort of ESP abilities from the last season in "Treasures of the Mind"
Episode 4 - When We Dead Awaken
SeaQuest stumbles upon a warehouse of cryogenically frozen individuals that is under threat from earthquakes. One of the individuals turns out to be Piccolo's missing mother. Builds upon the cryogenic tech seen in "Games"
Episode 5 - Dead End
A SeaLaunch with Ford, Hitchcock, Lukas and Tim on is sucked into a cavern beneath the sea floor and repairs to it mean that they will need to leave one person behind, with each person arguing why they should be on the launch.
Episode 6 - Meltdown (Halloween Special)
An accident at a power station under the ice caps causes the ice to melt and a giant prehistoric crocodile to be released. JAWS with submarines - including manipulating Bridger into the position of declaring that they will need a bigger boat.
Now I've started doodling ideas for an Alternative Season 2 for SeaQuest that moves more away from the actual S2 than an the parallels than the alternative above.
Is it possible to have the Beatles (or some other modern great) be as respected as Tchaikovsky?
Tchaikovsky is sometimes considered "the last truly great music artist or composer" by many.
Tchaikovsky is sometimes considered "the last truly great music artist or composer" by many.
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Who are the many?
For them what about Elgar, Shostakovich. Coupland, Vaughan-Willisms And a few others.
I wouldn't go with the Beatles IMO. Though I do really love their music. I wouldn't leave this up to any rock group or musical artists. As much as I would love to see Led Zeppelin take this honor. But I could see someone who embodies more of a classical composer artistry taking the honor. Someone like Frank Zappa or Peter Gabriel fits this from a musical artist/composer example. But I think film score composers may embody the classical composer idea more so. Like John Williams or Danny Elfman for example. But in my personal opinion there are three modern musical artists and composers who should and will take this honor. First off is Trent Reznor. Who is best known as the front man of the group Nine Inch Nails. Over the years though he has produced and composed music for a number of other artists across genres. He has now settled into being film director David Fincher's film score composer. Secondly is Mike Patton like Trent he is best known for being the front man of a musical group in Mike's case Faith No More. But he has also been involved with composing music for a number of other projects. But he has also crossed into scoring films. His credits are fewer than Reznor at this point. But the two scores he has composed are extraordinary. Lastly is the youngest of my examples but IMO the most likely to receive the honor of the next great composer after Tchaikovsky. Ludwig Göransson, who has composed and produced music for a number of artists but primarily Childish Gambino. But has become the most sought after film and television composer ever. He has already received massive critical and public accolades.
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I got one: Keith Relf joins Led Zeppelin. I have a thread for this:https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/keith-relf-joins-led-zeppelin.498940/
Patrick Stewart turns down the offer to return to the role or Jean Luc Picard, so January 2020 sees the debut of Star Trek: Universe instead. A new ship, the USS Universe, must deal with an unfolding diplomatic crisis.
Former Star Trek Discovery star Maulik Pancholy plays Captain Picasso Valmont whilst Patrick Stewart does return in a recurring guest role as the Emergency Diplomatic Hologram.
Former Star Trek Discovery star Maulik Pancholy plays Captain Picasso Valmont whilst Patrick Stewart does return in a recurring guest role as the Emergency Diplomatic Hologram.
What if Stanley Kubrick when meeting with Tolkien about a possible Middle-earth movie adaptation alternative to LOTR, and Tolkien pulls out an unfinished The Children of Húrin novel. (It makes sense because The Children of Húrin is a dark novel even for Tolkien’s usual work, and Kubrick loves dark and bleak stuff) So how would Stanley Kubrick’s movie adaptation would look like and will the movie succeed in the box office or not?
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THE TL is a little tight, as the project must come after 2001 and Kubrick hated to film outdoor but might be possible
Anyone have a Taylor Swift related timeline? Or maybe I will have to do that one myself...
Its probably a bit to early for anything other than future History (if she goes into politics mostly). Well other than what if Kanye and Kim had been exposed as liars years earlier.
That or what happens to her in various AU timelines. For instance I have a sudden image of an eight year old Swift being rescued by an actually not dead Elvis on Judgement day and rising to lead the Resistance group he creates. That's too ridiculous for words...
Here's a WI: WI Jean Doumanian doesn't turn down John Goodman, Jim Carrey, AND Paul Reubens for the season 6 cast of Saturday Night Live?
Assuming Eddie Murphy still gets cast, imagine how good Murphy, Goodman, Carrey, and Reubens could have been; they couldn't have done worse than Gilbert Gottfried (who hadn't developed his obnoxious persona that he'd become famous for), Joe Piscopo, and Charles Rocket (to be fair, the writing didn't help them, either, and some of the skits were just awful--the Commie Hunting Season skit has to be seen to be believed, and is easily SNL's low point)...
Assuming Eddie Murphy still gets cast, imagine how good Murphy, Goodman, Carrey, and Reubens could have been; they couldn't have done worse than Gilbert Gottfried (who hadn't developed his obnoxious persona that he'd become famous for), Joe Piscopo, and Charles Rocket (to be fair, the writing didn't help them, either, and some of the skits were just awful--the Commie Hunting Season skit has to be seen to be believed, and is easily SNL's low point)...
I think a better idea is to prevent Al Franken's "A Limo for a Lame-O" bit on Weekend Update.
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Might make an actual thread to brainstorm, but I've been kicking around an idea for a while that would basically be an exploration of a different publication history and development of the X-Men franchise after Chris Claremont's exit from Marvel, mostly with the idea of Fabian Nicieza having more of a creative impact on the line and staying on past his OTL departure in 1995. Might end up looking at developments in different parts of the comics world, but my initial idea are all pretty centered on the early 90's X books.
Any thoughts would be really appreciated!
Any thoughts would be really appreciated!
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All A Dream A Redone 2010s. Wonder what happens when a Alien Space Bat undoes the 2010s? Let's see the strange and amazing effects in AAD10s. Posting this link here because more people know me in this forum than ASB.