Pop Culture Timelines Go-To Thread

Screwhorn77

Nivek said:
The one screw linked to, IIRC someone mentioned MGM was lucky it didn't become worse,It not only would have killed more people,could have fully burned the casino too,that was my pod ,a worse fire put MGM far worse and Turner is able to buy it out promising a good debt management (ie victims payment and keeping the studio rolling (
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Would Turner actually manage to do this, though? After all, debts were the reason he gave up on MGM.

And while having a true media manager at the helm would benefit MGM, the fact that it'd be Ted Turner has me concerned about New Line Cinema. I still wonder about where Parretti's scheme would lead, too.
 

Nivek

Screwhorn77 said:
After all, debts were the reason he gave up on MGM.
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The debt he needed to buy it out plus seems he did it to keep the most valuable asset...their library but something I learned studying the Pittsburgh Penguins case, debtor are willing to give you time if you promise and act to pay debt, that's how Mario Lemieux was able to buy and save them,if Turner is able to do a good payment schedule,the initial price tag would be low enough for him.( Or Sony or PepsiCo would grab it first, dunno, butterflies are a fickle girl).

At the time new line was still independent,either MGM Turner grab or Warner do it ( or someone else)
 

Screwhorn77

Nivek said:
if Turner is able to do a good payment schedule,the initial price tag would be low enough for him.( Or Sony or PepsiCo would grab it first, dunno, butterflies are a fickle girl).
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That's right, butterflies are unpredictable. Turner would be good hands for MGM anyway, and it could recoup its losses under someone like him, I believe.
Nivek said:
At the time new line was still independent,either MGM Turner grab or Warner do it ( or someone else)
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Speaking of, New Line Cinema was interested in buying out Orion Pictures in 1991. (Republic Pictures were too, and ABC as well, and ABC got Orion's TV division instead.) Maybe something could come of it?

Also, found an article about Parretti and what he did to MGM.
 

TheFaultsofAlts

To set aside the current mood, I have an idea for a pop culture thread...

A parodical mix between the Console Wars and WW2, with the following alignments:
Nintendo: Italian Fascism
Sega: Japanese Imperialism
Atari: British Allies
PlayStation: American Patriotism
Xbox: The worried citizens at home.

I know this sounds insane, so let me clarify that this is going against my personal biases and the cultural impact of these companies. With that said, please allow me to explain myself:

Nintendo would be characterized as a fascist company because of how heavily-marketed Mario is over all the other franchises, yes, including the other heavy hitters like Zelda and Pokemon.

Sega is the Japanese faction because of how they were treated in America post-Pearl Harbor. Plus, I wanted to see George Takei as Segata Sanshiro.

Atari is the British legion because, as far as I know, Great Britain uses elderly people who have the most experience with wars to fight for them.

PlayStation, despite being a Sony product, would represent the USA due to its legacy in that country.

Finally, because the Xbox would be too recent around this time, the characters from there would become the family members that couldn't directly participate in the war itself, yet still firmly in PlayStation's favor.

Also, we can lump in the arcade characters with Atari or Xbox, depending on how recent or old the arcade games are. Most of the big names would be with Atari, though.

Granted, in real life, I'm a strong believer in the Nintendo way. But with the context clues given, I feel like we might make a good parody like this.

What does anyone think about this?
 
Otakuninja2006

Otakuninja2006

TheFaultsofAlts said:
To set aside the current mood, I have an idea for a pop culture thread...

A parodical mix between the Console Wars and WW2, with the following alignments:
Nintendo: Italian Fascism
Sega: Japanese Imperialism
Atari: British Allies
PlayStation: American Patriotism
Xbox: The worried citizens at home.

I know this sounds insane, so let me clarify that this is going against my personal biases and the cultural impact of these companies. With that said, please allow me to explain myself:

Nintendo would be characterized as a fascist company because of how heavily-marketed Mario is over all the other franchises, yes, including the other heavy hitters like Zelda and Pokemon.

Sega is the Japanese faction because of how they were treated in America post-Pearl Harbor. Plus, I wanted to see George Takei as Segata Sanshiro.

Atari is the British legion because, as far as I know, Great Britain uses elderly people who have the most experience with wars to fight for them.

PlayStation, despite being a Sony product, would represent the USA due to its legacy in that country.

Finally, because the Xbox would be too recent around this time, the characters from there would become the family members that couldn't directly participate in the war itself, yet still firmly in PlayStation's favor.

Also, we can lump in the arcade characters with Atari or Xbox, depending on how recent or old the arcade games are. Most of the big names would be with Atari, though.

Granted, in real life, I'm a strong believer in the Nintendo way. But with the context clues given, I feel like we might make a good parody like this.

What does anyone think about this?
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This would actually be quite intriguing to see.
 

Screwhorn77

I've read through the article about Parretti that I linked above. This particular bit caught my eye:
By early 1990, Parretti had been eyeing MGM for more than a year. He had found the perfect centerpiece for the global empire he aspired to build. Founded in the Twenties, symbol of Hollywood's Golden Age, once home to "more stars than there are in Heaven," MGM had produced Gone With the Wind, The Wizard of Oz, and Singin' in the Rain. But MGM's owner since the late Sixties, Kirk Kerkorian, had never made the studio pay the way he wanted it to. So in 1986, Kerkorian sold the rights to the MGM library, and the fabled 44-acre Culver City lot to Ted Turner. By the end of the decade, Kerkorian was looking to sell the rest. And Giancarlo Parretti was looking to buy.
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Prior to that, Parretti had his eyes on Pathe, which is, like MGM, kind of a big deal in cinema historically. Seems like Parretti wanted a big name to build his empire upon. Shall Turner gain MGM in full, where would someone like Parretti turn to?
 

TheFaultsofAlts

Otakuninja2006 said:
This would actually be quite intriguing to see.
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Cool!
Screwhorn77 said:
Prior to that, Parretti had his eyes on Pathe, which is, like MGM, kind of a big deal in cinema historically. Seems like Parretti wanted a big name to build his empire upon. Shall Turner gain MGM in full, where would someone like Parretti turn to?
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Assuming that Parretti didn't buy Pathe IOTL, we can have him purchase the studio IOTL in the event of Turner keeping 100% of MGM.
 

Screwhorn77

TheFaultsofAlts said:
Assuming that Parretti didn't buy Pathe IOTL, we can have him purchase the studio IOTL in the event of Turner keeping 100% of MGM.
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That's the thing - he didn't. The Pathe Communications thet Parretti owned was actually The Cannon Group (Cannon Films), and when he tried to buy Pathe that is one of the oldest French film companies ever, French government objected because they thought his background was shady.
He launched a $150 million bid to acquire Pathe Cinema, the venerable French motion picture company, and went so far as to change the name of the Cannon Group to Pathe Communications Corp. in anticipation. And he hired Alan Ladd Jr., an experienced studio executive and son of the late movie star, to make pictures for Pathe Communications. Ladd also joined the board of directors.
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Parretti's bid for Pathe Cinema was tentatively blocked by the French government, which didn't want a French shrine to be owned by an Italian of dubious background.
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He did have a few other ideas, though.
Parretti announced that Pathe Communications had earned a profit for 1988 against a loss the previous year. He announced plans to bail Dino De Laurentiis out of bankruptcy. He announced he would buy New World Entertainment, a company that produced TV shows and B movies. He announced he would take over Kings Road Entertainment, which was known for The Big Easy. And most spectacular of all, he elaborated on plans to purchase control of Pathe Cinema, the legendary French movie company and a shrine to French cinema, whose library contained classics by French directors as well as by the Italians Federico Fellini and Luchino Visconti. Parretti said he would receive investments from the British media tycoon Robert Maxwell and the Italian television magnate Silvio Berlusconi, and would triple Pathe Cinema's size and filmmaking capacity and merge it with Pathe Communications.
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He was outbid for New World entertainment and Kings Road Entertainment. The De Laurentiis deal fell through. Pathe Communications posted a loss for the second quarter of 1989.
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Nivek

connorCD said:
There was also Castle Rock which Turner also acquired not long beforehand. What happens to them?
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Seems that movement was indirectly linked with the new cinema deal too but again turner grabbed it first anyway before getting new line. We could see turner still getting it regardless of new line..or Sony or Warner get it and they own Seinfeld
 

Screwhorn77

The bit about Parretti having plans to buy New World had me interested, to be honest. At this point, New World has a number of popular TV shows, owns a number of stations and has Marvel Entertainment Group, so that would be a juicy deal all things considered. And considering Fox got their place among major broadcast stations by, among other things, getting their hands on New World's stations, having New World get entangled in Parretti's dealings would have consequences worth musing about.
 
Button_Revenge

Button_Revenge

TheFaultsofAlts said:
To set aside the current mood, I have an idea for a pop culture thread...

A parodical mix between the Console Wars and WW2, with the following alignments:
Nintendo: Italian Fascism
Sega: Japanese Imperialism
Atari: British Allies
PlayStation: American Patriotism
Xbox: The worried citizens at home.

I know this sounds insane, so let me clarify that this is going against my personal biases and the cultural impact of these companies. With that said, please allow me to explain myself:

Nintendo would be characterized as a fascist company because of how heavily-marketed Mario is over all the other franchises, yes, including the other heavy hitters like Zelda and Pokemon.

Sega is the Japanese faction because of how they were treated in America post-Pearl Harbor. Plus, I wanted to see George Takei as Segata Sanshiro.

Atari is the British legion because, as far as I know, Great Britain uses elderly people who have the most experience with wars to fight for them.

PlayStation, despite being a Sony product, would represent the USA due to its legacy in that country.

Finally, because the Xbox would be too recent around this time, the characters from there would become the family members that couldn't directly participate in the war itself, yet still firmly in PlayStation's favor.

Also, we can lump in the arcade characters with Atari or Xbox, depending on how recent or old the arcade games are. Most of the big names would be with Atari, though.

Granted, in real life, I'm a strong believer in the Nintendo way. But with the context clues given, I feel like we might make a good parody like this.

What does anyone think about this?
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This would be quite interesting to see. I like the idea.
 
Button_Revenge

Button_Revenge

Button_Revenge said:
Hey, it’s me again. I think I want a partner or two to help me on this. If you’re interested in expanding the timeline with me, DM me about it.
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Also, update on this since it's been a good 18 days: I've expanded the timeline up to 1982, and I'm currently struck with writer's block, having trouble coming up with interesting ways to expand the timeline more. I know this is necromancy bumping, but I just want to do one more interest check for anybody who would be interested in partnering with me for this, and help me find interesting events from whatever year I'm working on that could be shaped, as well as expanding the changes I've already put in place. Again, if you're interested and want to help, please DM me.

I also should stress: This is not a need, it is a want. If you aren't interested in the premise, that is fine. Don't feel forced to help if you don't want. If I come off as forceful, that's my fault.
 
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Electric Monk

Electric Monk

I’d suggest just grabbing a couple history books on topics you’re interested in. Or heck tell me what you like and I’ll find something for you and possibly in a free archive.org version

You’re new to the board so you have to build some relationships instead of asking out of the blue to be honest
 

NoName

One type of fan media I've been exploring a lot is what I like to refer to as "retradaptations", which are basically me taking a modern piece of media I'm a fan of, and reinterpreting it as a loose modernized adaptation of some older work that doesn't exist in our timeline. They're a lot of fun to do because they allow me to come up with something new while using a work I'm a fan of as a basic blueprint.

Here are some examples of retradaptations I've been experimenting with lately.

- Aggretsuko as a modernized parodic adaptation of a musical children's film Sanrio released in the seventies under the Sanrio Films label. (Which I previously talked about here in the "Best Movies Never Made" thread.)
- Netflix's Centaurworld as a loose adaptation of a trippy musical live-action/animation hybrid film released in the late sixties or early seventies, in the same vein as The Wizard of Oz or Alice in Wonderland and directed by Ward Kimball.
- Dreamworks' Madagascar as a comedic in-name-only adaptation of a dark and depressing British novel, in the same vein as Animal Farm or Watership Down, about some abused zoo animals struggling to survive on the titular island.
- Dreamworks' The Bad Guys, but instead of being adapted from a series of books, it's a CGI remake of a 2D-animated Don Bluth/Amblimation film released by Universal in the late eighties or early nineties. (It was inspired by this fan art I found on Instagram.)
- Smiling Friends as an adult parodic adaptation of some saccharine Hanna-Barbera movie/TV special of the same name from the early eighties, in the same vein as Care Bears (since that seems to be the kind of show SF is a parody of, plus Adult Swim has made adult parody adaptations of Hanna-Barbera properties in the past, like Sealab 2021 and Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law).
- The comic strip Phoebe and Her Unicorn being a modern adaptation of a sixties children's book of the same name that got a TV special adaptation by Bill Melendez in the 1970s.
 
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