Pop-culture in TL-191

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Thoughts on a TL-191 version of this? Ok, I know butterfly effect and all (and in my headcanon, Dubya's years were served by the son of Leo Enos) but some food for thought.
 
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Thoughts on a tl-191 version of this meme but with someone like Morrell in Uncle Billy's place?
 
I probably imagine Boris Lavochkin being TL-191 Sherman, considering Hardeeville reminded me a lot of the worse of the March to the Sea.
Boris “Gotta turn Sherman into saint” Lavochkin will probably committed other crimes like hardeeville in the Deep South
 
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Thoughts on a tl-191 version of this meme but with someone like Morrell in Uncle Billy's place?
"Burning Irving" could work as it actually rhymes but he probably doesn't have a "firey" and wild reputation like Sherman, more of a calculating tactician who's known for his innovating Barrel tactics. If you're transplanting Sherman's reputation and memes you're probably looking for an air marshall who ordered unrestricted bombing campaigns on civilian targets.

Last time I reread the books I packed it in after the Great War Trilogy so I don't know remember if there's a character like that.
 
Also what will the Mormon faith/ people would portray as in Pop Culture? because they did some serious terrorism like people bomb and attack civilians outside of Utah but the US did some immoral shit like Banning the Letter-Day Saints faith and flat out deporting them from Utah
 
"Burning Irving" could work as it actually rhymes but he probably doesn't have a "firey" and wild reputation like Sherman, more of a calculating tactician who's known for his innovating Barrel tactics. If you're transplanting Sherman's reputation and memes you're probably looking for an air marshall who ordered unrestricted bombing campaigns on civilian targets.

Last time I reread the books I packed it in after the Great War Trilogy so I don't know remember if there's a character like that.
A potential candidate would be Boris Lavochkin (https://turtledove.fandom.com/wiki/Boris_Lavochkin).
 
Also what will the Mormon faith/ people would portray as in Pop Culture? because they did some serious terrorism like people bomb and attack civilians outside of Utah but the US did some immoral shit like Banning the Letter-Day Saints faith and flat out deporting them from Utah
It depends on the public views of Mormonism after the Second Great War.
 
Boris “Gotta turn Sherman into saint” Lavochkin will probably committed other crimes like hardeeville in the Deep South
I wouldn't be surprised if Lavochkin committed war crimes in the occupied Confederacy post-Second Great War. But I like the idea of him taking Sherman's position in otl, where Confederate apologists use him to excuse the Confederacy.
 
It depends on the public views of Mormonism after the Second Great War.
I feel like the Mormons will likely be still hated among many of the public population as terrorism of the Nauvoo legionnaires would have caused paranoia about Mormonism so expect them to be portrayed as dirty little traitors who sold their allegiance to the confederacy, and a thorn for the US cause
 
I feel like the Mormons will likely be still hated among many of the public population as terrorism of the Nauvoo legionnaires would have caused paranoia about Mormonism so expect them to be portrayed as dirty little traitors who sold their allegiance to the confederacy, and a thorn for the US cause
The ironic part is that the Confederacy didn't care for Mormons. Longstreet ranted to Stonewall about his hatred of Mormons and was glad there wasn't much in the CSA; Potter even asked a Mormon how they would treat the Native Americans, which got him an angry response from said Mormon. The CSA supported the Mormon uprisings because it was a thorn on the US.
 

"I'm feeling good about America (ignore the references to Gerald Ford)," political jingle for Leo Enos' 1992 election campaign.
 

Thoughts on a TL-191 version of this? Ok, I know butterfly effect and all (and in my headcanon, Dubya's years were served by the son of Leo Enos) but some food for thought.
(For context: https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...federacy-tl-191.185493/page-302#post-24042367 and based on this:
warning will get stuck in your head).

Lyrics of the Socialist political jingle: "We want Enos and Nader" for Leo V. Enos' 2000 election campaign.

It's time to get back to the shining star.
America proud of everything we are.
Join in the voice, singing near and far.
We're going to elect Enos and Nader.
We want Enos and Nader.
We need Enos and Nader.
We want Enos and Nader.
Elect Enos and Nader!
Live on the bright side and morning sunshine.
Our pledge is to end classism.
Put education and values align.
We're going to elect Enos and Nader.

We want Enos and Nader.
We need Enos and Nader.
We want Enos and Nader.
Elect Enos and Nader!

United States (America!), keep your values (America!) and integrity (America!). Vote Enos and Nader!

It's time to get back to the shining star.
America proud of everything we are.
Join in the voice, singing near and far.
We're going to elect Enos and Nader.

We want Enos and Nader.
We need Enos and Nader.
We want Enos and Nader.
Elect Enos and Nader!

(Who do we want?!)
We want Enos and Nader.
(Who do we need?!)
We need Enos and Nader.
(Who do we want?!)
We want Enos and Nader.
(Everybody!)
Elect Enos and Nader!

(Who do we want?!)
We want Enos and Nader.
(Who do we need?!)
We need Enos and Nader.
(Who do we want?!)
We want Enos and Nader.
(Everybody!)
Elect Enos and Nader!

(Sing it again!)
We want Enos and Nader.
(Who do we need?!)
We need Enos and Nader.
(Who do we want?!)
We want Enos and Nader.
(Everybody!)
Elect Enos and Nader!
This is remind me of this video that I honestly it’s catching as hell plus it can fit in your headcanon too
 
This is remind me of this video that I honestly it’s catching as hell plus it can fit in your headcanon too
The only thing Leo V. Enos and Dubya have in common is that they were President of the United States from 2001-2009, and their dad was Prez from 1989-1993. A Tl-191 version of that video could work, just got to change some things in that video.
 
Any ideas for sitcoms?
I was thinking about a sitcom based upon the character Nellie Semproch and her coffee shop during the occupation. Think of a cross between Beverly Hill Billies and Hogan's Heroes in which Nellie's daughters constantly use their feminine wiles to coax secrets out of the Confederate military personnel visiting their coffee shop. For the most part, the Confederate soldiers and officers beguiled by Nellie's daughters are mostly portrayed as being innocent half wits who been misled by the Freedom Party.

Perhaps an episode might include a particularly hard-nosed CS intelligence officer who has been sent to occupied Washington DC to uncover a troublesome network of Yankee spies. Through happenstance, and skullduggery, Nellie's daughters manage to manipulate evidence to make it appear that the hard-nose CS intelligence officer were actually the head of the Yankee spy ring. At the end of the episode the intelligence officer is being let away in chains as the owner of the shoe store across the street has a metal pinned on him by an occupying CS general.
 
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