Pop-culture in TL-191

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I was reading the post on Colonel Union AKA TL-191's version of Captain America, which made me contemplate what the comic book industry will look like ITTL. MLJ looks like it will take the place of Timely (later Marvel) Comics, so I am guessing that some of the characters will be hybrids of early Marvel and Archie superheroes, perhaps with a little Quality thrown in. These are a few of what I had in mind:

MLJ/Wonder Comics

-Colonel Union
-Firebrand (A combination of the android Human Torch and MLJ's Fireball with the Quality hero's name.)
-Sub-Mariner (More or less the same as OTL.)
-The Comet (Ditto, created by Jack Cole's counterpart TTL.)
-Quicksilver (Not the one you're thinking of. Try DC's Max Mercury.)
-Vision (A combination of the Golden Age hero and MLJ's Mr. Justice.)
-Miss America
-Rubber Man (TTL's version of Plastic Man)
-The Wizard
-The Web (Possibly revived in the Silver Age as a Spider-Man analogue?)

National Periodicals/All-Star Comics
-Superman (Since he is confirmed to exist in TL-191)
-Owl-Man (TTL's version of Batman, but with an avian motif.)
-Sparrow (TTL's version of Robin.)
-Wonder Woman (Given the USA's closeness to Germany, I wonder if TTL's Marston would model her on Norse mythology and change her into a Valkyrie.)
-Thunderbolt (TTL's version of the Jay Garrick Flash)
-The Green Lantern (Same as OTL, though with the name Alan Ladd.)

That's all I have time for, but what do you think?
Would owl-man’s version of Gotham city be home to the court of bats?
 
Can anyone give any examples of a Turkic Dune?
Sorry for not answering your question in a quick manner.

I really don't know how a Turkic Dune would look like since I am ignorant of the culture.

The reason I said "Turkic" was because I thought that the Ottoman Turks are presumably more dominant in TL-191 and Arab culture wouldn't be well-known to U.S. audiences (until much later).

OTL Dune and TL-191 Dune would probably look very similar to those unfamiliar with Middle Eastern culture and history.
 

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Sorry for not answering your question in a quick manner.

I really don't know how a Turkic Dune would look like since I am ignorant of the culture.

The reason I said "Turkic" was because I thought that the Ottoman Turks are presumably more dominant in TL-191 and Arab culture wouldn't be well-known to U.S. audiences (until much later).

OTL Dune and TL-191 Dune would probably look very similar to those unfamiliar with Middle Eastern culture and history.
Would the other characters be the same or different?
 
I wonder if the Big Three of American wars (The Revolution, the Civil War, and World War 2, all the most popular events in American history in terms of amount of books made) would be replaced with a different number of wars. The Second Great War would no doubt be one of the most iconic conflicts in American history as discussed before, and I can still see the American Revolution being big, but what about conflicts like the First Great War or the Second Mexican War? The Civil War (which I think was called something different, but I can't remember off the top of my head) would probably still be considered very important, but probably wouldn't have nearly as many books made about it.
 
The Civil War may fall into that “forgotten war” category too to a lesser extent. Northern history of the conflict would having a definite “southern/British/french treachery” spin on it. Heck, the Civil War and Mexican wars might be lumped into a general “Age of Humiliation” in American text books
 
Any ideas what "Power Rangers" might be like TL-191?
See my previous posts on this thread.

I can see the Mexican War becoming more of a "forgotten war" in the sense that most media would ignore the subject of that war.
Not really. At the Remembrance Day Parade during the First Great War, it was emphasized that there were still living veterans of the First Mexican War participating and that it was the last time the USA won a war.

Unlike real-life, where it is treated as a "forgotten war" due to its moral differences compared to other wars that the USA was involved in, the First Mexican War would be treated with a greater sense of pride. (Ex. "We beat those Mexicans and got more than half their land!"). Per my head-canon on Mexico being a somewhat active belligerent in the Second Mexican War and being a formal enemy during the First Great War, the relations between Mexico and USA would be much more poor and the Unionists would be looking for any previous war before the War of Secession and lionize it.

I'd include the War of 1812, too. Granted the U.S. didn't win, but it also didn't lose. In TL-191, it'd be viewed as a war that stood firm against British power.
 
See my previous posts on this thread.


Not really. At the Remembrance Day Parade during the First Great War, it was emphasized that there were still living veterans of the First Mexican War participating and that it was the last time the USA won a war.

Unlike real-life, where it is treated as a "forgotten war" due to its moral differences compared to other wars that the USA was involved in, the First Mexican War would be treated with a greater sense of pride. (Ex. "We beat those Mexicans and got more than half their land!"). Per my head-canon on Mexico being a somewhat active belligerent in the Second Mexican War and being a formal enemy during the First Great War, the relations between Mexico and USA would be much more poor and the Unionists would be looking for any previous war before the War of Secession and lionize it.

I'd include the War of 1812, too. Granted the U.S. didn't win, but it also didn't lose. In TL-191, it'd be viewed as a war that stood firm against British power.
I believe they were referring to the Second Mexican War, but that is an interesting perspective.
 
Some Famous Films on the Subject of Jake Featherston

Collapse: (2004) The most famous film on the topic of Featherston, Collapse would directed by Oliver Stone and would star Nicholas Cage as Jake Featherston, Maggie Gyllenhall as Dietitian Annabelle Fox, Michael Shannon as General Walton Walker, the film would set in the final weeks of Featherston's life in both his Presidential Bunker and his ill-fated flight to the Deep South. The film would widely praised as being the most accurate film about the Confederate Dictator to date as well as it's controversial presentation of him as being less of a caricature as in other films about him. The film would also spawn a series of internet memes about him which would be known as the Bunker Memes. The film in several countries (such as Mexico, Romania, Italy, Persia, Thailand, and the Empire of Japan) would have the alternate title of The Bunker.

Featherston: The Face of Evil (Featherston: Das Gesicht des Bösen): (1996) Another famous film about Featherston, the Face of Evil was directed by Bernd Eichinger and starred Thomas Kretschmann as a young adult Featherston and Alexander Held as an older Featherston. The film was in black and white and based upon both widely acclaimed books of Featherston as well as the post-war testimonies of those who've known the man, which the film was a biographical film about the life of the 20th Century's most infamous man. Like Collapse, the film would too be highly praised as being a very accurate film about Featherston, though one critic stated that Featherston in real life never wore glasses as in the case of Featherston from The Face of Evil.

Featherston: The Last Ten Days: (1973) A British biographical film about Featherston's last ten days, which the climax would be of his death at the hands of Cassius Madison (played by Cleavon Little), directed by Rex Firkin and would star John Bennett as Featherston, Julian Glover as Captain John Essex, and Doris Kunstmann as Lulu Maddox. Unlike the later films The Face of Evil and Collapse, many reviewers stated that Featherston as portrayed in this film seemed to be more of cartoonish, most notably in a scene where he reacted badly to Lulu's request to kill her.
 
I wonder what a TL-191 version of Girls und Panzers would look like?
Would we see much anime or any Japanese pop culture in TL-191? Neither power-block was very fond of Japan and there'd be no post Hiroshima affect on Japan's art and culture wish I've read many feel was a major catalyst
on Japan's film industry.
 
Would we see much anime or any Japanese pop culture in TL-191? Neither power-block was very fond of Japan and there'd be no post Hiroshima affect on Japan's art and culture wish I've read many feel was a major catalyst
on Japan's film industry.
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After the great success of the Azure Lane British Animé in 2015, the French animation studio IAP counter-attacked in 2016 with its own Animé: Filles de Char (Tank Girls). The short series is following Claire, the protagonist, a young girl who under a cute and delicate appearance, hide a true passion for tanks and combat vehicles. Convinced by her best friend to enter a "Club de Char" (Tank Club), a group of passionate who renovate old tanks to enter a friendly competitions against other clubs and fight mock battles. There she would met who would become her friends for the series: Marie, a snobish girl from a noble, military family who initially tried to be the tank commander by the sole virtue of her upbringing, and Violette, a mix-raced Pied-noir girl who come from a proletarian family and who's passion for tanks is a way to escape her bleak every-day life.
With the other girls of their club, Claire and her friends would at first learn how to maintain and drive a tank before formally entering competition against other clubs. While the series initially faced criticism for openly using real tank designs from the Second Great War, the fact that girls from other country, including Germany and the USA, were presented as friendly rivals and that the tanks battles were treated as professional competitions helped alleviate the concerns about the rumor of being being pro-Action Française.
After the success of the first season, the unexpected second season and the Téléfilm (ITTL OAV), Filles de Char would be adapted into a video game, humorously enough taking the opposite road of its rival Azure Lane.

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After the great success of the Azure Lane British Animé in 2015, the French animation studio IAP counter-attacked in 2016 with its own Animé: Filles de Char (Tank Girls). The short series is following Claire, the protagonist, a young girl who under a cute and delicate appearance, hide a true passion for tanks and combat vehicles. Convinced by her best friend to enter a "Club de Char" (Tank Club), a group of passionate who renovate old tanks to enter a friendly competitions against other clubs and fight mock battles. There she would met who would become her friends for the series: Marie, a snobish girl from a noble, military family who initially tried to be the tank commander by the sole virtue of her upbringing, and Violette, a mix-raced Pied-noir girl who come from a proletarian family and who's passion for tanks is a way to escape her bleak every-day life.
With the other girls of their club, Claire and her friends would at first learn how to maintain and drive a tank before formally entering competition against other clubs. While the series initially faced criticism for openly using real tank designs from the Second Great War, the fact that girls from other country, including Germany and the USA, were presented as friendly rivals and that the tanks battles were treated as professional competitions helped alleviate the concerns about the rumor of being being pro-Action Française.
After the success of the first season, the unexpected second season and the Téléfilm (ITTL OAV), Filles de Char would be adapted into a video game, humorously enough taking the opposite road of its rival Azure Lane.

KuOxXgG.jpg
I'd like to think the Filles De Char would feature some of the alternate barrel designs I've made for various TL-191 threads here. :cool: :biggrin:
 
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A screenshot from the Joint American-Japanese made video game known as Battlestations Pacific.

Battlestations Pacific was a video game that was co-developed by the Japanese company Bandai and the American THQ and was released in 2009. The game is a real-time tactics game focused around the Pacific Theatre of the SGW which features playable air and naval units, such as the A6M Zero, TBF Avenger, Gato class submarine, motor torpedo boats, Fubuki class destroyer, Northampton class heavy cruiser, Kongo class battleship, and the Yorktown class carrier. In addition, the game would feature bases which smaller warships and/or aircraft could be launched and ship can get repairs at as well other features such as customization for aircraft, and the ability to capture and island from the enemy. The game would feature both a Japanese and Union campaigns, which would feature battles such as the Battle of Midway and the Second Battle of the Three Navies. Battlestations would also feature a multiplayer mode that had several modes such as Island Conquest, Siege, Duel, Competitive, and Escort.
 
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