Pop-culture in TL-191

[CASSICTOR2]

Mentioned this in another thread; I expect a lot of people are going to rehabilitate and idolise the Red Marxist Rebellion during the Great War.

Honestly with the the socialist in influenced with America culture. I can honestly socialism be a lot more idealized and a good nature than the anti-communist stance in OTL Media

Expect big budget films about the lives of Cassius, Cassius Madison, maybe even Scipio. People will likely seize on this resistance effort as a counterweight to depressing films about the Destruction.

Definitely especially with Cassius Madison killing what basically is the American Lucifer and other heroes who stand against the CSA oppression against their people

Let’s face it after what Featherston did who doesn’t want to watch a film about underdog black rebels blowing the heads off god-damned rebel scum?

Based

 

[Marklin]

Gonna be doing a long post on Superbombs in media. Am open to suggestions, but here's my outline

-The Superbombings of Petrograd and Paris are the most controversial, due to the narrative that the two nations (mainly the former) were weak and probably would've fallen without them. Russia produces the TL 191 equivalent to Godzilla and France Barefoot Gen
-Britain and the Confederacy elicit less sympathy, at least in Germany and the US due to them both striking with their own superbombs. The Confederate superbombings are commonly cited by extremists. Locally in Britain, there is a lot of media over the superbombings, albeit not as much as France and Russia, but they have the benefit of being a strong international movie market that gets more exposure.
-Both Germany and the US go on campaigns to convince their people of how these nasty contraptions are, in fact, very good things, while taking different approaches to how to survive nuclear war. The Fallout series still exists, but has an even more cynical edge akin to the first game that never leaves with the later games. Germany develops it's own post-apocalyptic game series that has a more European feel.

 

[CASSICTOR2]

Gonna be doing a long post on Superbombs in media. Am open to suggestions, but here's my outline

What about Japan with the Superbombs and how media affects by the uses of superbombs

 

[Undeadmuffin]

Gonna be doing a long post on Superbombs in media. Am open to suggestions, but here's my outline

I did some reference to superbombs ( I however think that I made a mistake and called them sunbombs) in my anime post #2 with France associating it to militarism and a death threat to mankind.

 

[Marklin]

What about Japan with the Superbombs and how media affects by the uses of superbombs

Going off of my continuation, the Japanese Superbomb Arsenal wasn't as developed as the other great powers, with reasons ranging from a poorly funded, Japan not becoming an Economic powerhouse until later than OTL, OTL issues that the Imperial Japanese Nuclear program had, as well as a lack of outside support leaving them to make theirs from scratch due to the Germans and US attempting to maintain a monopoly. So compared to the US or Germany, Japanese superbombs aren't as talked about. When it comes to Japanese media, they prefer to emphasize the valor of the soldiers or the greatness of bushido rather than their technological wonders.

One headcanon I had for my continuation was Japan developing a small arsenal of non-ICBM nukes, but creating plans to deliver them in the form of long range kamikaze strikes if the Final War were to truly break out, although my continuation also has Japan moderate to an extent.

 

[CASSICTOR2]

When it comes to Japanese media, they prefer to emphasize the valor of the soldiers or the greatness of bushido rather than their technological wonders.

I can only see Japanese propaganda using the Superbombs as a way of force and intimidation against interfering in the GEACPS to the West (Germany and US Allie's)

 

[S. Marlowski]

I have just been thinking, what would the Modern Art movement look like in this universe?

 

[CASSICTOR2]

I have just been thinking, what would the Modern Art movement look like in this universe?

Less like shit and more actual art hopefully

Also probably a lot more nihilistic because of the more nuclear attacks and Reduction destroyed the American psyche too

 

[Cire]

Just how swinging would the swinging 1960s of the 191 universe be? Well, I think that the below music video might be a good indication of what commercial pop music might be like. Remember, I'm describing things as they might be within my own continuation story in which the US successfully reabsorbs the Confederacy. Also, notice how the below musical piece has top not musicianship in it, but it is completely devoid of any radicalism or overt sexual messaging as in our timeline.

 

[CASSICTOR2]

Just how swinging would the swinging 1960s of the 191 universe be? Well, I think that the below music video might be a good indication of what commercial pop music might be like. Remember, I'm describing things as they might be within my own continuation story in which the US successfully reabsorbs the Confederacy. Also, notice how the below musical piece has top not musicianship in it, but it is completely devoid of any radicalism or overt sexual messaging as in our timeline.

Maybe you'll be more explicit of swinging because of a decline of religion because of the Great Wars

 

[Cire]

Maybe you'll be more explicit of swinging because of a decline of religion because of the Great Wars

Well, I think that the music would be moderately conservative, but that the people themselves would be somewhat self-contained in their actions.

 

[CASSICTOR2]

Well, I think that the music would be moderately conservative, but that the people themselves would be somewhat self-contained in their actions.

It may be a case that TL191 US would be a bizarre mix between more conservative but have a less religious value compared to IOTL America

More militarized and conservative culture but also more Socialist, Nihilistic and Pessimistic view in America @Cire

 

[CASSICTOR2]

Since this is the first day of Kwanzaa, I going to asked you guys a question and speculate with me. Do you think Kwanzaa and Juneteenth will ever exists in the World of Southern victory?

Remember that the CSA even without the Black Reduction, oppressed and treated shit to the Afro-Confederate community for 83 years before they were liberated by the US and CSA even abolished slavery but replace it with basically apartheid

I could see a Massive Renaissance of Black culture in the decades after the Population reduction and Liberia as well as African community will be even prouder of the heritage than ever

 

[Cire]

Since this is the first day of Kwanzaa, I going to asked you guys a question and speculate with me. Do you think Kwanzaa and Juneteenth will ever exists in the World of Southern victory?

Remember that the CSA even without the Black Reduction, oppressed and treated shit to the Afro-Confederate community for 83 years before they were liberated by the US and CSA even abolished slavery but replace it with basically apartheid

I could see a Massive Renaissance of Black culture in the decades after the Population reduction and Liberia as well as African community will be even prouder of the heritage than ever

Just a guess, but most likely there would be some sort of a holiday to commemorate the liberation of camps Humble and Determination. Would there be something like Kwanzaa? Maybe, but there doesn't really seem to be enough information to say for certain. I imagine that the US government would make exhaustive efforts to ensure that discrimination against surviving would be severely stamped out, and that post war black culture would probably be less harsh than it is in our timeline.

 

[Marklin]

I'm almost positive I posted this idea here or in the Photos thread, but I cannot find it for the life of me, so I'mma post about it again.

An idea I had for the TL 191 equivalent of "An American Tail," but set in the 1900s before the First Great War, about a family of Raccoons (based on the one interpretation of Maus) who leave the South after their home is destroyed by Southern Dogs and head north to Chicago.

 

[terranova210486]

I'm almost positive I posted this idea here or in the Photos thread, but I cannot find it for the life of me, so I'mma post about it again.

An idea I had for the TL 191 equivalent of "An American Tail," but set in the 1900s before the First Great War, about a family of Raccoons (based on the one interpretation of Maus) who leave the South after their home is destroyed by Southern Dogs and head north to Chicago.

Sounds good

 

[terranova210486]

I just watched Casablanca last night. Any ideas for a similar movie but in a different location?

 

[oshron]

I just watched Casablanca last night. Any ideas for a similar movie but in a different location?

if it counts, i made up one called Caracas for one of my own TLs. it was just a find-and-replace of the OTL movie, though

 

[terranova210486]

if it counts, i made up one called Caracas for one of my own TLs. it was just a find-and-replace of the OTL movie, though

What’s the plot?

 

[oshron]

What’s the plot?

a find-and-replace of Casablanca but set roughly in Venezuela instead in the context of the TL i "wrote" it for, World War II is replaced by a Third Spanish-American War. the only thing that would be especially relevant for TL-191 would be its setting. though, thinking about it a bit more, it might make more sense for the alternate Casablanca to be set in Mexico instead, to complement the Confederacy replacing Nazi Germany