Pop-culture in TL-191

Another thing, One of the first ever blockbusters, Birth of the Nation from 1915 (One which has aged horribly) focuses heavily on Reconstruction. So this really makes me wonder what the first Blockbuster in TL 191 would be about. Seeing that the Union and Confederacy would be at war in 1915, I can see it being a Confederate Propaganda Film that focuses on the South's glorious victories in both the Mexican War and War of Secession. It could even still maintain it's name "Birth of a Nation."
D.W. Griffith can even direct it, as he was from Kentucky.

On the question of Expressionist films, maybe France fills that slot in this timeline? I could see the societal backlash from losing TWO wars against Germany leading to a degredation of "traditional values" which would in turn lead to the Actionists taking over due to the subsequent backlash from conservatives, much like the reactions of traditionalist Germans who saw such things as Art Deco, open Homosexuality, immigration and the seeming collapse of "Germanic" values during the Weimar era and supported Hitler.

The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, for example, could be about French Shell-Shock victims instead of German ones, and Lang's "Metropolis" could be translated as a French vision of a stratified future of haves and have-nots.
 
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Another thing, One of the first ever blockbusters, Birth of the Nation from 1915 (One which has aged horribly) focuses heavily on Reconstruction. So this really makes me wonder what the first Blockbuster in TL 191 would be about. Seeing that the Union and Confederacy would be at war in 1915, I can see it being a Confederate Propaganda Film that focuses on the South's glorious victories in both the Mexican War and War of Secession. It could even still maintain it's name "Birth of a Nation."
It could also be a US film that focuses on Remembrance America in some way to make it more analogous to Birth of a Nation. Perhaps it tells the story of John Brown and how right he and his sons were to fight the South before the War of Secession because they knew how bad it was ?
 
D.W. Griffith can even direct it, as he was from Kentucky.

On the question of Expressionist films, maybe France fills that slot in this timeline? I could see the societal backlash from losing TWO wars against Germany leading to a degredation of "traditional values" which would in turn lead to the Actionists taking over due to the subsequent backlash from conservatives, much like the reactions of traditionalist Germans who saw such things as Art Deco, open Homosexuality, immigration and the seeming collapse of "Germanic" values during the Weimar era and supported Hitler.

The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, for example, could be about French Shell-Shock victims instead of German ones, and Lang's "Metropolis" could be translated as a French vision of a stratified future of haves and have-nots.
Did a little more research, and it does seem that German Expressionism had it's start before WW1. The question here is how it would evolve differently under a victorious kaiserreich. I can still see something similar popping up in France though.
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Another thing, One of the first ever blockbusters, Birth of the Nation from 1915 (One which has aged horribly) focuses heavily on Reconstruction. So this really makes me wonder what the first Blockbuster in TL 191 would be about. Seeing that the Union and Confederacy would be at war in 1915, I can see it being a Confederate Propaganda Film that focuses on the South's glorious victories in both the Mexican War and War of Secession. It could even still maintain it's name "Birth of a Nation."
IIRC someone in some thread, did adressed it, happened before the war but was that, the first Southern Epic and one was value is artistic merit, was about that, how family separated and how South born...yeah a little more in the soft propaganda side
 
Getting on the topic of Pop-Culture in TL 191, would German Expressionism still be a thing? How would German Cinema and literature be different in this world?
It depends on the butterfly effect, of course. For instance, IOTL, FW Murnau and Fritz Lang both served in WWI. Do they both survive the FGW?

German culture will be significantly different in the long term. Due to the country emerging victorious in two Great Wars, and with no Third Reich. There will not be the same exodus of artists, including filmmakers, from Germany abroad that occurred in our world. On the other hand, Germany will become one of the world’s great cultural centers; likely joined by Austria-Hungary in that regard.

Germany and Austria-Hungary may produce an analogue to film noir, though it would be called something else.

Even though the USA will not gain a huge German-speaking emigre artistic influx as in our world, US culture - especially filmmaking - would be influenced by the latest trends from Berlin, Vienna and Budapest.
 
I always did have a headcanon that Leni Riefenstahl is the German!Frank Capra of TL 191. While Frank Capra is on the mind, I am seriously wondering what the "Why we fight" series would be like ITTL. Also, maybe a parallel to how John Ford filmed the Battle of Midway could play out too.
 
I've thought about H.P Lovecraft serving in the United States Army during the First Great War. With the horrors of trench warfare influencing his later writings, creating a twisted landscape of rotting flesh, poisonous clouds and vines of hardwire. Later on adding in the horrors of super bombs and atomic radiation into a mix after witnessing the Confederate super bombing and its aftermath.
 
I've thought about H.P Lovecraft serving in the United States Army during the First Great War. With the horrors of trench warfare influencing his later writings, creating a twisted landscape of rotting flesh, poisonous clouds and vines of hardwire. Later on adding in the horrors of super bombs and atomic radiation into a mix after witnessing the Confederate super bombing and its aftermath.
A next generation Edgar Allan Poe would be on that way, now talking the futulity of war and how that is the human own abyss...
 
I've thought about H.P Lovecraft serving in the United States Army during the First Great War. With the horrors of trench warfare influencing his later writings, creating a twisted landscape of rotting flesh, poisonous clouds and vines of hardwire. Later on adding in the horrors of super bombs and atomic radiation into a mix after witnessing the Confederate super bombing and its aftermath.
With his noted OTl racism one wonders if in Tl-191 he has some kind of personal Confederate influence and also if he was popular in the CSA-? Not that you couldnt be racist in the US in Tl--191 during the early 20th Century but you know what I mean...
 
Or maybe "For all mankind" is an Alternate world where Japan joined the Space Race and are making a startling enough amount of progress to frighten the Germans and Americans.
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Poster for the TL-191 version of "For All Mankind"


Concept art for the first episode of "For All Mankind", Yellow Moon
Source:
https://www.deviantart.com/sapiains/art/Japanese-moon-landing-410758285


Actual drawing used by the Verein für Raumschiffahrt (VfR) in Breslau before the German moon landing in 1959.

Second picture in post:
https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/photos-from-featherstons-confederacy-tl-191.185493/page-153#post-17724719
 
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With his noted OTl racism one wonders if in Tl-191 he has some kind of personal Confederate influence and also if he was popular in the CSA-? Not that you couldnt be racist in the US in Tl--191 during the early 20th Century but you know what I mean...
Or maybe he is less racist in that timeline
 
Another thing, One of the first ever blockbusters, Birth of the Nation from 1915 (One which has aged horribly) focuses heavily on Reconstruction. So this really makes me wonder what the first Blockbuster in TL 191 would be about. Seeing that the Union and Confederacy would be at war in 1915, I can see it being a Confederate Propaganda Film that focuses on the South's glorious victories in both the Mexican War and War of Secession. It could even still maintain it's name "Birth of a Nation."
By the way, Birth of A Nation is based off The Clansman which was second book in the Ku Klux Klan Trilogy by Thomas Dixon Jr alongside The Leopard's Spots and The Traitor. Since the Ku Klux Klan doesn't exist whatsoever in Timeline 191 not to mention the altered post-war South as the independent Confederacy my guess is that two of Dixon's books will likely have different names altogether.
 
I'm wondering who the big 5 equivalent would be in TL 191's Worldwar series. Obviously it would probably be more than 5. Part of me can see Russia ITTL being conquered by the Race due to it most likely not being as developed as OTL's USSR was, but the Race would probably give it up due to being too unsuitable for the Race's biology.
 
I'm wondering who the big 5 equivalent would be in TL 191's Worldwar series. Obviously it would probably be more than 5. Part of me can see Russia ITTL being conquered by the Race due to it most likely not being as developed as OTL's USSR was, but the Race would probably give it up due to being too unsuitable for the Race's biology.

Well it could be a Big 6 if you include Russia. But if only 5 its the USA,CSA, Germany.UK and Japan. The Race maybe doesnt really want Russia since most of it is very cold but they would obviously want and take the Ottoman Empire. France is pretty screwed here as in Worldwar.
 
I always thought a Anti-Featherston coup would depose him in a Race/ TL-191 crossover when he refused to stop persecuting the war against the US, which leads to a North American Union. And a super rickety Union of US, CS, and Canada being free of the Race.
 
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