Polls: The wars that never were

Which war do you think is the most interesting?

  • Byzantine-Guptan War

    Votes: 11 17.2%
  • Carolingian-Sassanid War

    Votes: 9 14.1%
  • Anglo-Khwarizmian War

    Votes: 9 14.1%
  • French-Golden Horde War

    Votes: 23 35.9%
  • Holy Roman-Timurid War

    Votes: 13 20.3%
  • Ottoman-Ming War

    Votes: 32 50.0%

  • Total voters
    64
I have plans to make a TL about an alternate war that didn't happen in OTL. So which one do you like?
(once again, sorry for my bad english)
 
So...no one is interested enough to discussing this?
Maybe there is someone who want to throw his/her opinion about how these wars could happen?
 
Well...

Byzantine-Guptan War must occur in Persia, or on the seas. can't be a very big war though, too early and too far from each others bases of power...

Carolingian-Sassanid War I have no idea

Anglo-Khwarizmian War in the 1100's?

French-Golden Horde War fought in Central Europe, mostly Germany. The mongols are much more succesful, simply

Holy Roman-Timurid War Timur Lenk March on west after the Ottomans...

Ottoman-Ming War In India and on the high seas? Zheng He is succesfull and the Ottomans focus more than in OTL on Indian Ocean trade. They easily kick the Portugues back to whence they came and go back at eachother's throats... This is probably the most awesome of all! :cool:
 
Well...

Byzantine-Guptan War must occur in Persia, or on the seas. can't be a very big war though, too early and too far from each others bases of power...

Carolingian-Sassanid War I have no idea

Anglo-Khwarizmian War in the 1100's?

French-Golden Horde War fought in Central Europe, mostly Germany. The mongols are much more succesful, simply

Holy Roman-Timurid War Timur Lenk March on west after the Ottomans...

Ottoman-Ming War In India and on the high seas? Zheng He is succesfull and the Ottomans focus more than in OTL on Indian Ocean trade. They easily kick the Portugues back to whence they came and go back at eachother's throats... This is probably the most awesome of all! :cool:

Wow thanks for the reply!
Actually this is what I have in mind:
1.Byzantine-Guptan war, Byzantines and Gupta Indians make an alliance to jointly invade Persia and its awesomely succesfull, however they didn't reach agreement about how to divide Persia, then...BANG! A full-scale war exploded!
2.Carolingian-Sassanid war, same like above, a joint Persian-Frankish invasion of Byzantine Empire, resulted in Frankish Italy and Greece as well as Persian Anatolia and Egypt.
Sooner or later they will warring each other (Islam is butterflied away).
3.Anglo-Khwarizmian war, this have something to do with the Crusade, England is succesful to maintain control in Holy Land then came into conflict with Khwarizmia.
4.French-Golden Horde war, the Russians are asked help to another Europeans to freed them from Mongol rule, and somehow only French are willing to help.
5.Holy Roman-Timurid war, same as you said...
6.Ottoman-Ming war, initially the Sultan and the Emperor are succesfully work together to repel the Europeans out of Indian Ocean, however India is proved to be too "resourceful" for them, so...

However, I haven't decided about the outcome of these wars yet. So is there anyone who have another opinion???
 
Wow thanks for the reply!
Actually this is what I have in mind:
1.Byzantine-Guptan war, Byzantines and Gupta Indians make an alliance to jointly invade Persia and its awesomely succesfull, however they didn't reach agreement about how to divide Persia, then...BANG! A full-scale war exploded!
2.Carolingian-Sassanid war, same like above, a joint Persian-Frankish invasion of Byzantine Empire, resulted in Frankish Italy and Greece as well as Persian Anatolia and Egypt.
Sooner or later they will warring each other (Islam is butterflied away).
3.Anglo-Khwarizmian war, this have something to do with the Crusade, England is succesful to maintain control in Holy Land then came into conflict with Khwarizmia.
4.French-Golden Horde war, the Russians are asked help to another Europeans to freed them from Mongol rule, and somehow only French are willing to help.
5.Holy Roman-Timurid war, same as you said...
6.Ottoman-Ming war, initially the Sultan and the Emperor are succesfully work together to repel the Europeans out of Indian Ocean, however India is proved to be too "resourceful" for them, so...

However, I haven't decided about the outcome of these wars yet. So is there anyone who have another opinion???


Hmmm...
1. I think the real losers here are the Persians! :( Anyways, I don't think Byzantines and Gupta could keep Persia under them for very long... Enough for a war though
2. This I think is implausible, they could ally against the byzantines and butterfly both Islam and the Arab invasions/migration (at least delay centuaries). But they couldn't conquer all of the Byzantines... Sasanids may take all the mid east and the Franks Italy, but the Balkans.. Nah... It could ofcourse be occupied and Sasanid and frankish troops could fight it out, but not a large conflict... Perhaps a proxy war between small greek kingdoms though...
3. This is impossible. If the crusades are more succesful, the states wouldn't be english (at most Angevin influenced). If the Mongols are much weaker the Khwarizm can survive until the 19th centuary if they're really lucky and then fight the British as a part of the Great Game... But that's something different...
4. I don't think the French could project any power whatsoever in Russia until the crimean war... The only way is if The Barbarians (tm) comes to them

6. Yeah, I was thinking the same thing... However, This would happen so early that the Mughals can become a force to be reckoned with... They're likely to first ally with the Ottomans because of religion, but if it benefit them they'll easily side with China.
Also, because the Europeans are kicked out doesn't mes they'll be gone for ever... I could see either Ottomans or Chinese finally getting the upper hand after winning a major battle, only to see the "Faranjis" coming back after 100 years this time in force, and ally with the other side... This has very much potential...
 
I couldn't really comment about the other options as I was scratching my head trying to figure out just who the heck the groups were, except the Golden Horde and the Ottoman and Ming Empires. The idea of the Ottoman and Ming Empires going at each other to dominate trade routes appeals to me the most and strike me as the most realistic of the various wars that never happened.
 
It looks like that many people are willing to vote, but didn't want to give comment...
Honestly, I really expecting your idea/opinion guys...
 
Ottoman - Ming?

I had this wonderfully bizarre 'Eunuch of Stamboul' being mind-controlled by Emperor Ming the Merciless and killing the Ottoman Emperor - and then Mustapha Kemal...

Otherwise I'd like to see Emperor Fu-Manchu ('The world will hear from me again...') abolish the Hashishin and the Old Man of the Mountain:D

...A bit of century crossing, but how old was Fu-Manchu really?
 
Lazy people can bother to vote but find it too tiresome to post... :p

Well, I'm sure there are no things such as "lazy people" in this forum...
BTW I will post outlines/PODs for the timelines above (tomorrow, maybe...).
If there is still only few people who giving comments, maybe I should cancel my plans to make TLs about these wars... :p
 
Ottoman-Ming.

Easiest to research, for one, so more likely to produce an in-depth product.
 
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