Not enough. The US would have 5 times the population and 10 times the economy with the gap growing over time. The South would have less chance of beating the US than WW2 Japan. At least the population gap wasn't so wide.It doesn’t have to be 10 percent I’m just giving numbers. I’m bad at that part of it so I’m giving wide ranges. I’m asking couldn’t the south have a higher percentage compared to the north to lessen the gap a good bit?
I’m also hinting at rapid industrialization through non democratic means on the confederacy part or at least limited. Industrialization always rapidly changes thing. The north will have a consumer market and the south might have state capitalism and focus on certain industries much more. What if 30 years down they are focusing heavy on war materials during peacetime and the north isn’t.
The USSR shows what happens then. The CSA would not be nearly as big or populous as Russia.
It is going to be a lot different than modern military training. Criminals and escaped slaves are not standing armies. The US army is going to have machine guns, artillery and eventually trucks, tanks, and planes. Rioters and escaped slaves have none of that. They also don't have either the C3 or discipline a real army has. It might allow them to shorten their training a bit but the police are not a real army.They don’t know each other exact stockpiles. I’m also say a police force that is highly militarized is going to be needed and desired by everyone to prevent slave revolts. They will spend on that even if it hurts them a bit. Those police training isn’t going to be too different from more modern military training. They have to train people how to put down revolts and unrest. They might not be training like napoleonic armies but they are training more like modern military units.
They will have a lot of experience dealing with unarmed or poorly armed rioters and escaped slaves. They will have no experience dealing with artillery and machine gun fire and that is before planes and tanks are added to the mix.The CSA backward domestic conflicts is training them how to fight with modern weapons and small units across large rugged terrains(a lot of confederacy). The confederacy going to be plagued with violence of all types it isn’t unreasonable to say they will come up with oppressive means to solve these issues and also indirectly transition it into a more militarized nation while being justified to citizens as “keeping order”(that excuse doesn’t work as well in northern culture.
One reason our nation hasn’t fallen to a strongman as often. Also the south will fear not having a big defensive force will lead to them being the next Haiti. So cost is likely over extended a bit but the people accept that out of fear of a slave uprising. They can’t call in help from the north anymore. Slaves are majority in some states.
This can be handled by moderately trained light troops, which will not be of much help against a heavily armed US Army.
True, but that doesn't conjure up a well supplied, well armed, well trained large army. The US would have the capacity for all that the CS would not.So imagine a nation that probably has a bunch of guns floating around in the consumer market, right to bear arms and people want them there, and a bunch of escaped slaves, freeman, or abolitionist tried something. That radically changes the mindset of the nation. That founding principle is quickly regarded as outdated and a new excuse and system is made).
The real money is in the processing of all that.If that happens that nation can radically change but a strongman isn’t a radical so he has to justify change to those people mindset. The CSA of 1862 isn’t going to be the CSA in 1882. The CSA is right next to one of largest industrial powers in the world that’s going to lingering over a bit especially with continued business ties. CSA could get rich off natural resources in a similar fashion as Saudi once they discover them all.
Except they don't have the money to do this in a meaningful way.No reason they don’t mechanized. The south is going to be authoritarian in many ways but their methods of doing it could be head of their time.
Not for a long time. It would take decades for the CSA to fundamentally change and decades more before they could compete. You are talking 1900 or so for slavery to be made illegal if it ever is. You talking 1980 or so before "Black Serfdom" is abolished.This is why I say their culture is hypocritical because it is outclassed by their pride and emotion. Reactionary European nations are dead set on most things. If the south is getting out done and embarrassed by the north a lot of people could start flip flopping on things and rewording themselves as a excuse to do something that could help them compete.
Japan is an island and had the luck that China was in disarray during its rise. The US is just across the border.Japan modernized because they did not want to get out done by the Europeans and taken over. The south will be similar with the north.
The more authoritarian, prideful, and militarized over time(as their own nation they know they have to do more for themselves now).
Which tends to lead to backward, reactionary countries, not military powerhouses.
There will be more social mobility in the US as its population does not have to compete with slave labor.The US will build up but those are two different systems against each other. The south also still have social mobility in some forms for all whites(people are less likely to leave if they think they have a chance and north will be filled with other immigrants which discourages them from there. Also social mobility is key for industrialization and the south still has that to an extent).
If the US government doesn't ban that the CSA will get the lowest paying industrial work. The only jobs it will get are those that can be filled by the uneducated or undereducated . The good jobs will remain in the US.Northern industrialist and capitalist can easily go to the CSA and do business. Same language and they use to be part of the same country. When worker rights, unions, fair wages, safety regulations, and environment laws becomes a issue for them in the north the south might welcome them in. The south will have cheaper labor, less worker rights, less taxes/tariffs, and panders to them heavily.
Cheap and simple, yes. Reliable not so much.But the south is smart about it and it’s gets little cut for government use. The south has sweatshops that produce cheap and simple but reliable goods.
He also has to rely on backward infrastructure, poorly educated workers, corrupt beurocrats and likely a restrictive government.They have raw resources, cheap labor, rural landless and jobless poor, lower taxes, and lack of worker rights. A capitalist who already has money could easily see gains in that.
Possible but they have to compete with the USA for that.Dixieland ain’t far from him and Dixieland is also highly corrupt. They could be pulling Saudi type stuff. Imagine confederates in Chinese ports tricking illiterate Chinese peasants to come over to CSA and work but them and their families get stuck over there in indentured servitude building railroads.
Or even border outlaws kidnapping free blacks near the southern border to be sold down south.
Which likely leads to war. Governments don't like having even their second class citizens kidnapped. It infringes on their sovereignty.
Why not? The CSA would be poor and weak.The south is creating more eerily modern day issues. How is the north supposed to react to a bunch of independent criminals like this in this time period? The issue with it being in this time period is the CSA still isn’t as easily be on impose by the US like they currently can with Mexico.
CSA domestic issues can spill over into the US causing a lot of issues in both nations. Balkanize or divided Americas might be acting more like countries in the post-ww2 era in many regards while European is still stuck in the Victoria era but the Europeans might learn a lot about war before experiencing it themselves in ww1 depending on how things develop in the Western Hemisphere.
If problems from the CSA into the USA it is all the more a reason to conquer it to get it under control.
Your problem is in treating the USA and CSA as near equals. They wouldn't be.